Problem with setting brakes after replacement
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Problem with setting brakes after replacement
So I rebuild my rear axle, and put in a new brake cylinder, drum hardware, new drum pads and shoes, basically everything is new, and I cannot get the drum shoe onto the pads the left side. It appears to be the parking brake cable is barely engaged, pushing the pads out just enough so the shoe won't go on.
I think it is the cable because I cannot get the pads to sit properly, they're always expanded slightly no matter what and I am not sure how to fix that? Any other ideas on what could hinder the shoe from going on?
I also repacked the bearings, put in new seals, new rotors and brake pads for the front. My problem for the front brakes is I cannot get the brake caliber into place. I have depressed it with a C clamp, I just cannot get the metal brackets(or guides or whatever you have to hammer in to set them) into place without them braking. I've tried hammering the caliber in and back and everything to try and get them, and it never goes on right.
Am I missing any steps?
This is such an elementary problem, but I cannot figure these things out!
I think it is the cable because I cannot get the pads to sit properly, they're always expanded slightly no matter what and I am not sure how to fix that? Any other ideas on what could hinder the shoe from going on?
I also repacked the bearings, put in new seals, new rotors and brake pads for the front. My problem for the front brakes is I cannot get the brake caliber into place. I have depressed it with a C clamp, I just cannot get the metal brackets(or guides or whatever you have to hammer in to set them) into place without them braking. I've tried hammering the caliber in and back and everything to try and get them, and it never goes on right.
Am I missing any steps?
This is such an elementary problem, but I cannot figure these things out!
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I'm going to make a few assumptions here.
1. You have screwed the adjusters all the way in.
2. You have the shorter pad on the front side of the wheel
3. All springs are in the correct holes.
4. you are using 10" shoes for 10" drum, not 11" shoes for 10" drum.
Can you post a pic of your brake assembly?
1. You have screwed the adjusters all the way in.
2. You have the shorter pad on the front side of the wheel
3. All springs are in the correct holes.
4. you are using 10" shoes for 10" drum, not 11" shoes for 10" drum.
Can you post a pic of your brake assembly?
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The rear parking brake cables like to rust and stick. It would be good to put new ones on, they are not too expensive. To see if that is the problem, go to the driver's side of the truck, midway on the outside of the frame where the cables attach to the crossbar. On the problem cable, where it comes out of the sheath, put some vise-grips on the cable about 1/2 inch forward of the sheath, and then take a hammer and hit the side of the vise grips to drive the cable back up into the sheath to release the cable from pulling on the shoes.
If that works, then your cable was stuck, and it's going to give you problems unless you replace it.
On your front brakes, I have had this problem too. I didn't think I would ever get the metal piece to go back in. What you need to do is grab the caliper with your hand, and lift up on it, and bring it out a little bit at the bottom. Then the piece will go in.
If that works, then your cable was stuck, and it's going to give you problems unless you replace it.
On your front brakes, I have had this problem too. I didn't think I would ever get the metal piece to go back in. What you need to do is grab the caliper with your hand, and lift up on it, and bring it out a little bit at the bottom. Then the piece will go in.
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I'm going to make a few assumptions here.
1. You have screwed the adjusters all the way in.
2. You have the shorter pad on the front side of the wheel
3. All springs are in the correct holes.
4. you are using 10" shoes for 10" drum, not 11" shoes for 10" drum.
Can you post a pic of your brake assembly?
1. You have screwed the adjusters all the way in.
2. You have the shorter pad on the front side of the wheel
3. All springs are in the correct holes.
4. you are using 10" shoes for 10" drum, not 11" shoes for 10" drum.
Can you post a pic of your brake assembly?
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The rear parking brake cables like to rust and stick. It would be good to put new ones on, they are not too expensive. To see if that is the problem, go to the driver's side of the truck, midway on the outside of the frame where the cables attach to the crossbar. On the problem cable, where it comes out of the sheath, put some vise-grips on the cable about 1/2 inch forward of the sheath, and then take a hammer and hit the side of the vise grips to drive the cable back up into the sheath to release the cable from pulling on the shoes.
If that works, then your cable was stuck, and it's going to give you problems unless you replace it.
On your front brakes, I have had this problem too. I didn't think I would ever get the metal piece to go back in. What you need to do is grab the caliper with your hand, and lift up on it, and bring it out a little bit at the bottom. Then the piece will go in.
If that works, then your cable was stuck, and it's going to give you problems unless you replace it.
On your front brakes, I have had this problem too. I didn't think I would ever get the metal piece to go back in. What you need to do is grab the caliper with your hand, and lift up on it, and bring it out a little bit at the bottom. Then the piece will go in.
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I thought you had the older style caliper retainer. On the old style there is no top retainer, just a thick solid metal one on the bottom and then a spring that looks like a minature leaf spring.
The later trucks had the two retainers, they had the molded rubber in the middle and went in top and bottom.
I don't know what year they went from one to the other. I hope this is not mixed up somehow on your truck.
The later trucks had the two retainers, they had the molded rubber in the middle and went in top and bottom.
I don't know what year they went from one to the other. I hope this is not mixed up somehow on your truck.
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Its on a 1984 F150 4x4. Another reason I am confused is the left side had a pin on both top and bottom and the right side just had the bottom one. So basically I just gotta keep tryin different things till they both go in?
And on the drums.. I reversed the drum pads and still no luck. They are identical. So I think it is the parking brake cable. I may try and order a new one or try and free it.
Thanks for the help guys.
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And on the drums.. I reversed the drum pads and still no luck. They are identical. So I think it is the parking brake cable. I may try and order a new one or try and free it.
Thanks for the help guys.
airsoft1779
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hmm that is an interesting idea. That could be. The thing is though is the other side sits properly and the left side is expanded a cm or two. So even if I get the proper size shoe I am not sure it will be any help.