Does anyone list a NOS rear view mirror for my 1961 Ford F100 Unibody Custom Cab?

Another question... Do you have a list of Ford dealerships in the San Franciso area in the 1960"s ? Was there a Gervais Ford in that area? I believe my truck was purchased there new?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks again,

Bill.

 

Yeah, I have a mirror, name a fair price your willing to pay, and we'll see if we can do business. I try and get the wife to take a pic of it for you. I found an extra when I bought the truck. I am in Kannapolis, NC, where are you located? Hey Bill, don't worry, I'm not trying to retire off you. I just don't know what it is worth and if your interested in a used one or a new one.

 

I am looking for new in the box.

 

I just sent you a P.M. Check your in box.

 

C1TZ-17700-A (replaced C1TB-17700-AP) .. Inside Rear View Mirror - Painted (not a day/nite mirror) / Obsolete

1961/66 F100/1100 / 1963/69 N/NT/T500/1000 / 1967/69 F800/1000 / No Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

There was a similar mirror, but it was chrome, but I can't find the part number. I think it was the same as 1961/64 Custom/Galaxie 2/4 door sedans and wagons.
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C1AZ-17700-A .. Inside Rear View Day/Nite Mirror - Chrome 'Flip-Type' (this mirror is longer than C1TZ) / Obsolete

1960/61 full sized Ford Passenger Cars / Truck apps same as above.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has FOUR = 800-543-4959.
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Three dealers: Cortese Ford (formerly Cortese Edsel) in Oakland, S & C Ford in San Francisco, Billy Hughson Ford at the NW corner of Van Ness & California St. in San Francisco.

World's first Ford Dealer: 1903, San Francisco resident Billy Hughson took the train east to Dearborn, met up with Henry Ford at a restaurant.

Signed a contract on the back of a menu giving him exclusive rights to ALL of California. So, at one time, every Ford Dealer in CA was Billy Hughson's.

Many of these dealerships were later sold to Hughson's general managers. The only one that, AFAIK still exists under the original ownership, is Patchett's in Newman, a small farm town just east of I-5 in the Central Valley.

I've been in this building, parts bins were made from wooden shipping crates that contained CKD (Completely Knocked Down) Model T's, that were shipped and assembled here.

 

Loved the historical facts Bill. Did the CKD Model Ts have the floorboard patterns stenciled on the crates? I have heard this rumor, but thought that you would have the knowledge to confirm it or not. The story I heard is that in Henry's shrewedness, the crate wood was intended to be used as the floorboards.
Apparently there was a fellow in Vancouver who had a complete CKD T still in the crate, this was in the 80s but my pal who told me doesn't know whatever happened to it. Do you know of any?

 

The fellow that once owned Eagle Ford in Stockton CA had a ranch outside of town. There were several barns, one was full of NOS Model T parts.

Another contained three BRAND NEW Model T's, one CKD Model T still in the crate and six worn out Model T's, in various stages of disrepair.

He originally had more brand new Model T's, but when one wore out, he took one of the new ones, began driving it.

A TREASURE TROVE with one problem, barn roofs partially missing, pigeons roosting in barns, everything was covered with bird poop. Smelled to high heaven.

He died in 1972 (can't recall the date), widow then contacted the Model T Club, a date was set for the sale. By the end of the day, everything was sold, the prices were "more than right."

 

Just a little add-on to NumberDummy's "history lesson" - Minnesota's oldest dealership. Not quite sure of the source - but I've had it copied for quite a few years....

ST. CLOUD, Minn.--Full of big dreams and youthful self-assurance, Stephen Tenvoorde took the wheel of a Milwaukee Steamer in 1899 and traversed a rocky 70-mile oxen trail from Minneapolis to the tiny hamlet of St. Cloud.

For bringing the first motor car to his hometown, the rough-hewn blacksmith earned the nickname "The Daredevil."

While his neighbors ridiculed him for pouring his savings into a fad, Tenvoorde's gut told him he was onto something big.

In March 1903, he traveled to Detroit to cut a deal with an equally single-minded entrepreneur named Henry Ford.

Tenvoordes have sold Fords in St. Cloud ever since.

As Ford Motor Co. celebrates its 100th birthday in June, the world's oldest Ford dealership will mark its own centennial in this conservative farming community.

Tenvoorde Ford, like Ford, has defied the odds to remain family-owned through four generations -- surviving wars and the Great Depression, beating back bankruptcy more than once and sorting out tricky inheritance issues.

"One hundred years is incredible," said Elena Ford, the great-great-grandaughter of Henry Ford and a rising executive at Ford who works closely with dealers. "We know how they feel. It's been a long, hard, successful road for both of us."

Adaptable, resilient and fiercely independent, the Tenvoordes embody the traits that helped Ford dealers become the automotive industry's most powerful retail network.

In communities both large and small, Ford's 4,000 dealers play a huge economic role, selling more than 3 million cars a year and raking in billions of dollars in revenue.

Today, the Tenvoordes continue driving forward, looking to expand, struggling to leverage the Internet. And like the Ford family, they yearn to pass the torch to future generations.

"We are the world's oldest Ford dealership," said Jack Tenvoorde, 63, who owns the store with his two brothers, Dave, 61, and Paul, 52. "Grandfathers bring their grandsons here to buy cars. We have the following of generations. Why would we want to ever lose that? That said, we don't know know what the future will bring."

Daring souls

The auto industry's earliest dealers did not just sell cars, they willed an industry to life. They were daring souls staking their life savings on a potentially revolutionary but largely unproven invention.

Early dealers often had to assemble the cars they sold. When buyers didn't have cash, they accepted horses and oxen from farmers in trade. Some dealers even taught reading classes so potential customers could pass drivers tests.

Stephen Tenvoorde was a man for the times. Like his father, John, the leader of a clan of Dutch German settlers who founded St. Cloud, Stephen Tenvoorde had a pioneer's spirit.

A blacksmith, inventor and bicycle shop owner, he initially sold Fords from a small store front in downtown St. Cloud.

"He was fascinated by cars," Jack Tenvoorde said. "He raced bicycles and that attracted him to automobiles."

The budding entrepreneur marketed his Fords by staging public demonstrations and leading caravans on day trips. Like today's automakers, he pitched cars as a ticket to adventure and a go-anywhere lifestyle.

Stephen Tenvoorde was typical of the super-salesmen hand-picked by Henry Ford's right-hand man James Couzens in the company's formative years. Unlike other fledgling auto companies, Ford arduously screened dealers to separate the hucksters from the serious businessmen.

Ford audaciously demanded 50 percent payment in advance before it would ship vehicles. Dealers hated the inflexible rule, but it forced them to work hard to sell cars quickly.

Henry Ford issued edicts insisting that dealers keep a spotless showroom and provide top-notch repair service.

As a result, Ford's dealer body quickly became the industry's gold standard, a key advantage that helped propel the automaker to the top of business world.

Survival skills

By 1910, Stephen Tenvoorde built his first stand-alone dealership. He expanded a few years later, adding a showroom and service bay. Along the way, he invented a clever car jack -- known as the Tenvoorde Jack -- and sold the patent to Ford in 1921.

In those days, disputes were settled with fists as often as they were with lawyers. A pushy Fordson tractor representative once walked into Tenvoorde Ford and made the mistake of not taking no for an answer.

"They wanted him to take all these tractors," Dave Tenvoorde said. "He told them no about four times. About the fifth time, it was right out the door. It was the old blacksmith in him."

Stephen Tenvoorde also had a soft spot for bootleggers, sometimes hiding rum runners traveling south from Canada in his dealership.

When Stephen Tenvoorde died in 1943, the mantle was passed to his son, Cy, who had worked at the dealership since he was 12.

Cy Tenvoorde was so serious and business-like at work his sons jokingly called him "the iceman."

During the Great Depression, "he worked here like 18 hours a day and would go home and actually cry himself to sleep because of the stress," grandson Jack Tenvoorde said. "But he pulled us through."

It was not the last time he would save Tenvoorde Ford from disaster.

When Ford and other auto companies halted car production during World War II, Tenvoorde Ford laid off all but one of its salesmen and built a thriving business repairing used cars, rebuilding engines and carburetors, and grinding out crankshafts.

While many dealers went bankrupt, Tenvoorde Ford grew stronger. Soon, the dealership was bursting its seams.

Ever the product of the depression, Cy Tenvoorde paid cash in 1951 to relocate the dealership on an acre of land in St. Cloud.

Smooth transition

The trials, in fact, only seemed to toughen his mettle. In later years, when sales would dry up, he would stroll out into the showroom and calm his jittery troops.

"The guys would stand around wondering what was was going to happen," recalled Bill Braun, 61, a new car salesman at Tenvoorde Ford for the past 30 years. "He would walk up and light up a Chesterfield and say, 'It's kind of slow boys, but we've been here before. It'll get better.' "

Only once did it appear that Tenvoorde Ford would slip into the hands of strangers -- in the late 1960s when Cy Tenvoorde's two brothers and sister wanted to cash in their share of the company.

Cy Tenvoorde bought them out instead, greasing the smooth transition of ownership to his three sons.

A year later, his sons declared they wanted to move to a prime 10-acre lot a couple of miles away and build a state-of-the-art showroom.

"Dad told us, 'If you guys think it's the right thing, go ahead and do it,' " Jack Tenvoorde recalled. "But I ain't signing nothing.' "

Though he had ceded control, Cy Tenvoorde rarely missed a day of work over the next 20 years. Until his death, a few days before his 90th birthday, he was a fixture at the dealership, sorting papers and opening mail.

"That was his life," Dave Tenvoorde said of his father. "It meant more to him than anything else."

Adapting to change

Over the past 25 years, Cy Tenvoorde's three sons -- Jack, Paul and David -- have steadily nurtured and expanded the dealership. The changes in the industry have been striking.

"I can remember when we would sell a truck and they would say, 'I guess we will have to go order another one, ' " Jack Tenvoorde said. "Now the largest part of our business is trucks."

Tenvoorde Ford takes pains to make sure its history remains a part of its modern merchandising efforts. A refurbished 1911 Model T sits in the showrooms beside the F-150 pickups and Mustang coupes, and the walls are adorned with sepia-toned photos from the early years.

A sticker on every car and truck sold reminds buyers that Tenvoorde Ford is "the world's oldest Ford dealership."

"It makes a difference to the customer, believe me," said Braun, the veteran salesman. "I had a young couple this morning who said they came in just because they heard great things about us. They know we have a reputation to protect."

The Tenvoorde's 100-year run is a testament to both their business savvy and integrity, said Carter Myers, whose Charlottesville, Va., dealership has remained family-owned for more than 75 years.

"It's basic values that allow a company to stay in business that long, values that are handed down from generation to generation," Myers said. "You have to have honesty, fairness and respect."