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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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So this started after i fueled up. i had to run the truck down till the light came on. was no where near a station. after fueling up my truck had barely any throttle response. get to a light and had throttle on the floor and had nothing. then it picked up and went. turbo didnt seem totally there either. went to pull into the farm and started to miss bad. sounded like i had 3 bad injectors. put it in neutral and it smoothed out. couldnt pull any codes. so added two quarts of oil and unhooked batteries and hooked them back up. can rev it in neutral and almost dies when you let off. so i ran it hard to get it to my house. barely any turbo at times but felt ok at other times. got to my driveway with it boosted up and pulled in. let off to pull into my spot and the truck died. tried to start up and it grumbled and shut down. tried once more and it grumbled and barely stayed runnin. when it smoothed out a little i tried to romp the throttle. i had nothing. not even with it on the floor. what could cause all this? please help
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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Interesting


I run my tank of Fuel all the way down all the time no Issues. Many Many Times I pull into gas station with 10 miles or less on overhead Lie-O-Meter


But if you dont do that alot maybe you had some sediment at the bottom of the tank and it sucked it up into the fuel filters

Id Pull the Fuel Filters for a Look


Take Notice of the Upper Fuel Bowel (The Engine Mounted Fuel Filter) it should have some fuel in it DOES IT?????????

You need some gauges to check things over with Like a ScanGaugeII plugged into the OBDII Port

Also would be a Good Idea to check fuel Press


Also Check the FICM Volts
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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what should pressure and ficm volts be? and had a gauge on it and could pull no codes
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 11:20 PM
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FICM should read 48V with KOEO. and no less than 45V during cranking.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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well went out and bout new filters and a scangauge II today. filters made no difference. when i drove it i had the pedal on the floor didnt get up to high speed but could only get it to 19.8psi bst. got back home and sat there reving it a couple times. it would drop down to 408 rpm everytime i would let off. then i took it up to 2500 rpm and it wouldnt go any higher and started blowing out blueish white smoke. it would only blow the smoke at the high rpm. did that three times and on the third the truck died like it did last night when i pulled in. hope some of this info helps. i havent checked the FICM yet as i cant find a volt meter at my house and blew my pay check on the scangauge and filters. please help guys. thanks
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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BTW no codes were pulled via scangauge. said no codes/ not ready
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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You need to get xgauges then you can read the FICM voltages and more via the scan gauge II
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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The ScanGauge is a great device for the price but it's not the best for pulling codes.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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so i can use the xgauge feature on my scangauge to read the ficm volts? how would i do this? i thought it needed a special program
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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X-3 ^^^^^^ Use the SGII to Check FICM and Everything else

SGII will show all sensor LIVE Data


Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: BAR
Exhaust Back Pressure
?TXD: 07E0221445
?RXF: 046285140645
?RXD: 3010
?MTH: 001D00500000
?NAM: EBP
KO=103 (15) LI=110 (16) HI=110 (16) OR=55 - 607 (8 -88) kPA (PSI)
FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
?TXD: 07E02209CF
?RXF: 0462450906CF
?RXD: 3010
?MTH: 006401000000
?NAM: FLP
KO=12.0 LI=13.5 HI=13.5 OR=10.5-15.5
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FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) Your FMP should never dip below 45. If it does, your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced.
?TXD: 07E02209D0
?RXF: 0462450906D0
?RXD: 3010
?MTH: 006401000000
?NAM: FMP
KO=47 LI=47.5 HI=47.5 OR=40-52 (yes, that is what it says from Ford)
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts, should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)
?TXD: 07E02209CE
?RXF: 0462450906CE
?RXD: 3010
?MTH: 006401000000
?NAM: FVP
KO=12.0 LI=14.0 HI=14.0 OR=10.5-15.5
Inj. Control Press. (ICP / HPOP)
?TXD: 07E0221446
?RXF: 046205140646
?RXD: 3010
?MTH: 003900640000
?NAM: ICP
KO=0 LI=625.5 HI=1400-1450 OR=0-4045

ICP Voltage (Volts)
?TXD: 07E02216AD
?RXF: 0462451606AD
?RXD: 3010
?MTH: 004827100000
?NAM: ICV
KO=0.2 LI=1.0 HI=1.8 OR=.15-4.7 Volts

IPR Duty Cycle
?TXD: 07E0221434
?RXF: 046285140634
?RXD: 3008
?MTH: 0DCA03E8000A
?NAM: IPR %
KO=14.84 LI=24 HI=40.60 OR=0-50 %
MAP and Volts should already be in the gauge.
MAP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E0220900
RXF: 046205090600
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000104000000
NAM: MPV
Note: This one seems a bit odd, but try it out and let me know if you need finer resolution. This one will go by whole numbers, but the range is something like +/- 32 Volts which seems weird for a sensor – they’re usually 0-5 volts
EP Volts (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AE
RXF: 0462451606AE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100800000
NAM: EPV
Note: This one may have weird readings if the values get to high, let me know.

There is Alot more X-Gauges but these are a Great Starting Point for any problems


SGII ENTERING THE X-GAUGES FOR SETUP
 
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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SGII will read ALL Engine Sensors and Even Some Tranny stuff
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Benny thanks for the info man. I did everything per your instructions. I could not get the EBP to read. As well as the EPV. It had no reading at all not even 0. However here are the other results
BAR- 14.3
FLP- 14.0 vlts (truck running) 12.5 vlts (truck off)
FMP- 48-48.5 vlts (truck running)
FVP- 14.0 vlts (truck runing) 12.5 vlts (truck off)
ICP- 800-803 (truck running) 250 (truck off)
ICV- 1.05 vlts (truck running) .44 vlts (truck off)
IPR%- 18.2-19.3 (truck running) 14.4 (truck off) 41.5 @ 1500 rpm power brake
MPV- 1
BST (boost)- 6.6 psi @ 1500 rpm power brake
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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Just a thought could water in the fuel or a fouled injector cause these symptoms? or possibly something wrong with the turbo?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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that ipr looks wrong..low. right?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 01:05 AM
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Sounds like my truck a couple months ago, was HPOP, lol had it changed and 120 miles later it wouldn't start and the IPR had failed. Point being if its apart for the pump, change the orings and IPR valve as well, and there was something called dumby plugs and something else I can't recall but read about here somewhere as well that should be changed/updated while apart. Just makes sense to do these while apart. But does sound like very similar actions from your truck as my 05 F250. Good luck and hope it turns out to be a simple and cheap fix for you instead of what I went through. Thanks Ford.
 
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