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Rear axle seals

I will be soon doing my brakes again hopefully for the last time for a long long time. I am trying to do everything right within my financial means and above all cover all my bases. I know next to nothing about these rear ends.

Does anyone have a good part number for this paper seal I understand that I can make them but what a pain in the butt I would think and if they are readily avail ( and assuming they are cheap enough ) than I would rather go that route.

Is it safe to assume that these seals help to keep the gear oil within the differential. Is this the only seal? I guess there has to be an inner seal.

I have found that the only way to access these wheel cylinders was to remove the axle, do I need to worry about tearing some other seal somewhere up inside. If I do need to worry about that than chances are I have already done so and I need to get it taken care of while it is all apart.

Is the rear end made by Eaton, I know that some parts carry the Eaton name but if I were to reference the rear end assy would it be proper to use the term Eaton and be correct.


If anyone can think of anything I need to consider here before putting it all back together than it would sure be appreciated.
 
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Respectfully, sir, I could make that gasket quicker than I could look up any part number, try to find, and order. That gasket retains the lubrication within the hub at the outside. The inner seal is the one that goes into the back side of the inside bearing. The inner seal fails and you contaminate the brakes. The gasket fails and you see oil slung all over the outside of the wheel. Sorry not much help, just suggestions.
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Talking Axle Gasket

All I use is black silicone instead of that paper gasket.

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I may just go one of these routes than, I figured that maybe this gasket would me a dollar gasket and avail thru Napa, nice neat and done. That is what I am trying to do. Thanks
 
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OT - You are just hammering away.... Hopefully you can get all your answers and get your truck up and driving soon!!!
 
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Originally Posted by christurney77
OT - You are just hammering away.... Hopefully you can get all your answers and get your truck up and driving soon!!!
I dont know what OT means but I am definitely hammering away, this is my full time job at this point. This afternoon I plan to mount those pesky mirrors that I posted about a couple of weeks asking for info on how to mount. No one had any info so I guess Im gonna figure it out the old fashioned way

 
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OT = off topic. The guy was just commenting.
 
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Originally Posted by 1930 Dodge
I will be soon doing my brakes again hopefully for the last time for a long long time. I am trying to do everything right within my financial means and above all cover all my bases. I know next to nothing about these rear ends.

Does anyone have a good part number for this paper seal? Is the rear end made by Eaton?

I know that some parts carry the Eaton name but if I were to reference the rear end assy would it be proper to use the term Eaton and be correct?
In another thread, you asked about an Eaton 2 speed rear axle electric switch bracket that retains it to the shift lever (I found one NOS).

A8TZ-1001-C .. Axle Gasket-8 holes / 6.19" O.D. x 4.5" I.D. / 1948/52 F7/F8 & 1953/56 F700/800 all except Tandem Axles.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 80 = 800-476-9653.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 188 = 800-543-4959.
 
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Originally Posted by raytasch
OT = off topic. The guy was just commenting.
Off topic....Ok that makes sense. I recently learned OP means original poster
 
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In another thread, you asked about an Eaton 2 speed rear axle electric switch bracket that retains it to the shift lever (I found one NOS).

A8TZ-1001-C .. Axle Gasket-8 holes / 6.19" O.D. x 4.5" I.D. / 1948/52 F7/F8 & 1953/56 F700/800 all except Tandem Axles.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 80 = 800-476-9653.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 188 = 800-543-4959.
Thanks, thats crazy that I just cant get that at Napa for 2.00. I will just make them or goop it up
 
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Can someone tell me if the entire rear end is an Eaton assy? Thanks
 
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Can someone tell me if the entire rear end is an Eaton assy? Thanks
According to the 1948/56 truck parts catalog: 1951/56 F7/F700: Eaton model 16600 two speed rear axle.
 
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According to the 1948/56 truck parts catalog: 1951/56 F7/F700: Eaton model 16600 two speed rear axle.
Thanks, does anyone have a page from possibly a parts manual or service manual that shows a breakdown of my 2 spd rear end.

I have a 49-51 with 52 supplement parts book but as far as I can tell it does not show my set-up ( or at least the pictures are not identical )

I have been told by chuck at chucks trucks that electric motor in these axles was not avail until 53 so its odd that my truck has this? Prior to this I am assuming they were all vacuum assist.

I have tried placing Eaton model 16600 within a google search looking for a page from something but come up blank.

I would like to see among many other things these inner seals that retain the gear oil within the rear axle. I have a feeling that I am going to end up replacing these eventually and it wont be of course until after I have everything all buttoned up together I am sure. Thanks again for any help
 
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Respectfully, sir, I could make that gasket quicker than I could look up any part number, try to find, and order. That gasket retains the lubrication within the hub at the outside. The inner seal is the one that goes into the back side of the inside bearing. The inner seal fails and you contaminate the brakes. The gasket fails and you see oil slung all over the outside of the wheel. Sorry not much help, just suggestions.
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Hello raytasch, I need some help understanding where the rear axle seal is that keeps the diff fluid off the brakes. I think that I have an issue, is that seal within the drum assy ? This is the inside of my drum

Can you tell me the name of this seal, maybe a part number, maybe if it is still avail. Anything at all will help, I am sure between you and Bill ( numberdummy ) I can get the seals I need and not have to worry about gear oil leaking all over my new brake job. Thank-you
 
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This is what your inner hub seal look like
 


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