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Yes in fact it is. The Ecoboost is a thousand more than the 5.0.
Sorry Tim, Had to clear that little bit up; my bad.
Sorry Tim, Had to clear that little bit up; my bad.
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Just a note.....muscle cars of the 60's were typically rated in Gross horsepower. From ~'72 on they went to Net hp. Then in 2005 manufacturers started going to SAE certified hp, which is basically net hp, but requires third party approval.
You can't directly compare 60's muscle car horsepower numbers to today's horsepower numbers. Most cars back then were overrated in horsepower compared to today's numbers.
For example, the 426 street Hemi was rated by Chrysler at 425hp gross. When tested to gross HP standards, they actually put out around 435hp on average. However, when tested to modern net HP standards they typically put out around 370hp net (which Chrysler rated at 350hp net).
By comparison, the 3.5L Ecoboost is rated at 365hp net, while the 5.0L is rated at 360hp net in the F150. Not too far off of that 426 Hemi, which I think is pretty amazing. Especially considering the fuel economy these new engines get vs just about anything from back then.
You can't directly compare 60's muscle car horsepower numbers to today's horsepower numbers. Most cars back then were overrated in horsepower compared to today's numbers.
For example, the 426 street Hemi was rated by Chrysler at 425hp gross. When tested to gross HP standards, they actually put out around 435hp on average. However, when tested to modern net HP standards they typically put out around 370hp net (which Chrysler rated at 350hp net).
By comparison, the 3.5L Ecoboost is rated at 365hp net, while the 5.0L is rated at 360hp net in the F150. Not too far off of that 426 Hemi, which I think is pretty amazing. Especially considering the fuel economy these new engines get vs just about anything from back then.
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For the record I will also throw out there all horsepower and torque number will vary between dyno's and anyone that has had them done knows all the variables that come into play. You could dyno the same car on back to back days even on the same dyno and get different numbers. (Not to mention is the shop calibrating the dyno regularly)
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The program and CAI significantly improved HP/TQ. Gearz also did a small snippet and added a CAI and a program from Superchips and showed similar results.
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I was watching an episode of Horsepower TV today they said as they were installing a new CAI and a program from Bully Dog that the EB makes up 50% of all F-150 sales.
The program and CAI significantly improved HP/TQ. Gearz also did a small snippet and added a CAI and a program from Superchips and showed similar results.
The program and CAI significantly improved HP/TQ. Gearz also did a small snippet and added a CAI and a program from Superchips and showed similar results.
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I was watching an episode of Horsepower TV today they said as they were installing a new CAI and a program from Bully Dog that the EB makes up 50% of all F-150 sales.
The program and CAI significantly improved HP/TQ. Gearz also did a small snippet and added a CAI and a program from Superchips and showed similar results.
The program and CAI significantly improved HP/TQ. Gearz also did a small snippet and added a CAI and a program from Superchips and showed similar results.
The program alone makes a huge difference, I've got the SCT tuner for mine and just put it back to stock this week to try to squeeze a few more mpg out of it since I've been driving long trips up north but after driving it with the tune it feels like I lost a few cylinders.
I'm thinking it's about time to say screw the couple mpg and put it back in there.
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The program alone makes a huge difference, I've got the SCT tuner for mine and just put it back to stock this week to try to squeeze a few more mpg out of it since I've been driving long trips up north but after driving it with the tune it feels like I lost a few cylinders. I'm thinking it's about time to say screw the couple mpg and put it back in there.
I'm thinking it's about time to say screw the couple mpg and put it back in there.
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Like it wasn't a beast in stock form!!! Any estimations on HP/TQ increase? MPG increase when behaving?
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Don't worry about the mpg increase when behaving...it's not going to happen.
Not sure about Livernois but with the SCT tuner the increase was significant, they claim 50 hp and 108 ft lbs of torque...my butt dyno says they are right. It will leave a stock Eco like it's a Hyndai Sonata 
The SCT did make about a 1 mpg gain when I behaved but with that much power on tap I can't resist.
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Livernois adds around 100 HP to the ground. This is what it does to a stock Ecoboost...
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