6.0 alternator
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At (maybe after?) store closing, bad guy comes in and holds manager at gunpoint. Employee went out to his vehicle and retrieves his pistol, returns to store and scares off the bad guy. Employee was fired for having a weapon in the store.
Heroic AutoZone Employee Fired for Using Gun to Thwart Armed Robbery | Fox News Insider
Heroic AutoZone Employee Fired for Using Gun to Thwart Armed Robbery | Fox News Insider
It's a belt and suspenders approach. If you've ever had a loose connection or corroded battery cable ends, then you run the risk of affecting the current through the cables. With the way they seem to make parts disposable these days, and since the voltage regulator is no longer a $10 bolt on item separate from the alternator, adding a secondary wire just gives the electricity another path
I don't have the part number handy, but I'll look. I just looked under an 05 F350 and chose the one that was 140 amp for a single alternator application. We had to change an alternator at work on an 05 and I got to thinking "that would fit on my truck." Driving around later my voltage started going from 11 to 15 while cruising at freeway speeds, so I just stopped in and picked one up.
They only charged me $5 for a core charge, which has got to be some kind of mistake I'm guessing, but I'm thinking about hanging onto the old one and maybe finding some rebuild parts in a DIY kit, or turning it into a paperweight, or something.
I don't have the part number handy, but I'll look. I just looked under an 05 F350 and chose the one that was 140 amp for a single alternator application. We had to change an alternator at work on an 05 and I got to thinking "that would fit on my truck." Driving around later my voltage started going from 11 to 15 while cruising at freeway speeds, so I just stopped in and picked one up.
They only charged me $5 for a core charge, which has got to be some kind of mistake I'm guessing, but I'm thinking about hanging onto the old one and maybe finding some rebuild parts in a DIY kit, or turning it into a paperweight, or something.
#17
Well I got around to playing with it today. Unfortunately I lost a couple of pics, so I don't have all the comparisons I wanted.
First off, difference in pulley size
Sorry, but the pic of the stock pulley didn't come out, but I figure you can measure your own if the first pic wasn't enough to show the difference.
I took the case apart so I could clock the front and end up with the plug pointing in the original direction so it wasn't so close to the CAC tube that you couldn't use a socket to disconnect the line. I took the old one apart too for the heck of it. (it didn't want to come apart and the bearing ended up staying on the shaft as I convinced it to come apart)
Old case
New case
Old guts
New guts
Old case won't even fit over new guts
Add secondary charge wire
Back of alternator with plug now pointing in the right direction and extra charge wire added
A little split wire loom to make it look purty
Put the belt back on
Then choose a prize from any shelf.
First off, difference in pulley size
Sorry, but the pic of the stock pulley didn't come out, but I figure you can measure your own if the first pic wasn't enough to show the difference.
I took the case apart so I could clock the front and end up with the plug pointing in the original direction so it wasn't so close to the CAC tube that you couldn't use a socket to disconnect the line. I took the old one apart too for the heck of it. (it didn't want to come apart and the bearing ended up staying on the shaft as I convinced it to come apart)
Old case
New case
Old guts
New guts
Old case won't even fit over new guts
Add secondary charge wire
Back of alternator with plug now pointing in the right direction and extra charge wire added
A little split wire loom to make it look purty
Put the belt back on
Then choose a prize from any shelf.
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the recent deal firing an employee for defending himself and his co workers, I'm done with them.
Think about this...the guy (Devin McClean) has a carry permit, he is an Air Force VETERAN, it is the holidays and he is about to be a father. He leaves the store gets his gun and returns to save people, and the ********* at Autozone fire him! I immediately wrote to Autozone when this happened and told them to pound sand if they didn't hire him back with a raise and apologize to Devin. Of course, ********* don't answer email that have the tone I used with them and they didn't hire back a hero!
I won't buy anything from Autozone and it adds 30 miles round-trip to get parts...write them or hammer their Facebook page.
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I used to buy a lot from them since they opened a store that's about 10 miles closer to me than any of the other chain stores. Looks like I'll be driving more too now.
#23
No facebook here, and I haven't written yet. I'm going to wait until after the holidays and use snail mail. I'm going to include my rewards card in the mail and tell them they can have it back. I'll let them know I haven't shopped there since this happened (something they can verify by looking at the history from my rewards card), but wanted to wait to write the letter to let them know this wasn't just an emotional rant that would pass.
I used to buy a lot from them since they opened a store that's about 10 miles closer to me than any of the other chain stores. Looks like I'll be driving more too now.
I used to buy a lot from them since they opened a store that's about 10 miles closer to me than any of the other chain stores. Looks like I'll be driving more too now.
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Chris,
Unless you did so already....you may consider adding a fusible link or circuit breaker in your secondary charging wire. The primary charging wire has two fusible links in parallel (Fusible link B-two 12 gauge grey wires). The '99-'01 models has the fusible links at the ring connection on the fender mounted solenoid while the '02-'03 models have the fusible links at the ring connection on the passenger battery positive clamp.
Adding a secondary charging wire from the driver side battery positive to the alternator field output introduces the possibility for a direct short to ground that needs to be fused. It's possible for the alternator to fail in such a way as to allow unregulated current flow directly to ground. It's not very likely, but still possible. Another remote (but possible) scenario is a fault with one or more glow plug wires under the valve cover. If one of those wires were to short out against something that was grounded then it would have unfused battery power when the GP relay was activated. Most likely the wire under the valve cover would simply melt but it's safer to have a fuse at both charging wires just in case.
I just thought I'd mention this in case it was overlooked.
Unless you did so already....you may consider adding a fusible link or circuit breaker in your secondary charging wire. The primary charging wire has two fusible links in parallel (Fusible link B-two 12 gauge grey wires). The '99-'01 models has the fusible links at the ring connection on the fender mounted solenoid while the '02-'03 models have the fusible links at the ring connection on the passenger battery positive clamp.
Adding a secondary charging wire from the driver side battery positive to the alternator field output introduces the possibility for a direct short to ground that needs to be fused. It's possible for the alternator to fail in such a way as to allow unregulated current flow directly to ground. It's not very likely, but still possible. Another remote (but possible) scenario is a fault with one or more glow plug wires under the valve cover. If one of those wires were to short out against something that was grounded then it would have unfused battery power when the GP relay was activated. Most likely the wire under the valve cover would simply melt but it's safer to have a fuse at both charging wires just in case.
I just thought I'd mention this in case it was overlooked.
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Great job, Chris. Since you've slightly undersized your pulley on the new unit, you're probably getting closer to 150 (or more) amps out of the unit (using my calibrated eyeball to judge the difference in diameters in your picture). Also, your experience with the slightly larger case is the exact same thing I went through when I installed my DB Electric alternator about 2 year ago. Shimmed first, then ended up grinding the lower center of the bracket exactly like yours.
Good catch, Greg, regarding the fuse in the second charging cable. I did that when I put my last alternator on the truck, which was a 165 amp unit with an external bridge rectifier from DB Electric.
Good catch, Greg, regarding the fuse in the second charging cable. I did that when I put my last alternator on the truck, which was a 165 amp unit with an external bridge rectifier from DB Electric.
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I am not sure, I've been trying to search the wiring manuals for some sort of rating for the fusible links. So far I've been coming up with a dead end. I am not certain how fusible links are sized and what's available. The safest thing would be to match the OEM setup from the other side, so that would be two 12 gauge units. Here is photo of what the OEM links look like.
The grey wires are the links. One pair is for the alternator charging wire (which also carries the GP and AIH relays) and the other pair is for the body power (to fuse panels.)
I'll keep looking for some sort of rating. If I find something then you could simply use a resettable circuit breaker just as easily.
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If the link is sized to protect a certain gauge wire, then the amp rating should be taken from the size of the lead wire. I'll check to see what ga. wire I used for the secondary charge wire and size the link accordingly.