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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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[QUOTE=Shadowrider123;12602450]Im not into big power, I like low maintenence, reliability, economy, and somewhat orginial looking, for me that would be the black block, gold valve covers, carb, and oil bath gutted for a paper filter on a V8 and v-belts. 99% of those who look under the hood would be clueless. If the other 1% think Im an ***, I can live with that.

Im going to try and have a set of orginial 289/302/351 steel valve covers made taller to clear a roller 5.0 valvetrain.

I never liked the looks of those 5.0 valve covers on a retro application.

For now my 352 runs to good to replace it just for the sake of replacing it. Next go around will be a Windsor and a AOD.[/QUOTE

351w is a decent engine just that the MPG is no better than a 352.

As a matter of fact had a 1969 Ranchero GT with a 351w it was running a 3.25 gear friend took that car and I drove my dual quad 427 in a 67 Capri (factory) it had a 3.89 gear and a 4spd. The 427 powered Capri got 13.5 miles per gallon and the Ranchero with 351w got 11.9. Same speed same drive (hot rod power tour) 60mph a slow cruise. We filled up at same gas station when we left then when we got to our destination. I was quite surprised at both MPG's

My 351 plow truck empty @ 60-65 mph never got over 12. usually not over 10.5. My lightning never got over 15mpg.

If I am going to drive something as gutless as a mild 351 it should be getting great fuel economy. A FE will get same or better as a 351 and make way more power.

A windsor just does not "look" right in a 65-66 truck. For me almost anything but a windsor . . .
That's great you like them tho

352 block .050 over with a 4.25 crank, put in a real tall gear and the 351w would have a hard time to keep up or get the same MPG. Add a AOD or gear vendors OD . . .
 
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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I do see the differences in the tailgates. I did have the original on my truck. Hopefully the body lines are the same on the 67-72 and the differences are limited to the lettering and crease. Mine was damaged by a 16 year old ramming his brush guard into the back of my truck as a I left a stop light. I would have required them provide a 64-66 replacement if I had known there was a difference.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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Also not happy with DC being clear there was a difference. I may look for the correct tailgate or more likely let my poor memory forget Boss9F100 ever mention it.<o></o>
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 01:04 AM
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What is the main purpose of the truck? The 351C is a great motor... but only in the upper RPM band. The 428 will put out way more power down low, but up high the Cleveland wins. For a cool daily driver, I would go 428. FEs are the bomb in a slick 60s truck, IMO.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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I am putting a 351C into my 63 F250 4x4,,, was going to use these http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000024G

It is a 2V out of a ranchero, the 292 is tired, and I hate the dist in the back, reminds me to much of the 70 Chevy I had, when you are short it is a PITA, well, more of a Pain in the gut or knees to reach it. The price was good, and he threw in a lot of other goodies, 4bbl Edelbrock alum intake, dist, NICE valve covers, now all I need is time!
 
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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huh? dbl post
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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In the summer of 1970, I bought a '69 Ford police car with the 428 police interceptor engine (not 429 as used in non-police). I paid $659 for it. It was a 2-door Custom, no power steering or radio but had factory air. I don't miss the car but I've thought about how that 428 would be in my '71 F-100. Lots of torque.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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63 F250 351 Cleveland 4v

I have a 1963 F250 Flatbed with a fresh, rebuilt 351 cleveland 4v, with a 650 Holley carb. The truck will sit you back in your seats from the start, and at 50 mph, punch the gas and she takes off like a bullet. I don't know about the 428, but I know that my truck runs like a race car with the 351. As for parts, I have had no problem getting whatever I needed for it at a great cost. Changing the truck over to handle its new found power is what is going to be expensive. Just my opinion
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pickupmanx2
I am putting a 351C into my 63 F250 4x4,,, was going to use these http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000024G

It is a 2V out of a ranchero, the 292 is tired, and I hate the dist in the back, reminds me to much of the 70 Chevy I had, when you are short it is a PITA, well, more of a Pain in the gut or knees to reach it. The price was good, and he threw in a lot of other goodies, 4bbl Edelbrock alum intake, dist, NICE valve covers, now all I need is time!
Why are you using windsor mounts for a cleveland?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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Well all opinions aside,my M100 is getting a 351CCJ.May like it may not.I'll let you know.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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P.S. BOSS9-I hope you're feeling better!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 11:49 PM
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I would go for the fe, they bolt in and look great imho. I was contemplating the 302/351w swap a few years ago and I don't remember who said it but it stuck, "When I see that little motor in that big engine bay, I can't help but want to ask what will it be when it grows up?"
 
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Originally Posted by tre_93543
Why are you using windsor mounts for a cleveland?
Was told these would work,,, top right, 45-0360...

Truck Parts and Truck Accessories The mounts are the same, bell housing different.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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It only has to grow 1 cubic inch. Lol
 
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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Wrong mounts

Originally Posted by Pickupmanx2
Was told these would work,,, top right, 45-0360...

Truck Parts and Truck Accessories The mounts are the same, bell housing different.
I have a 63 f250 Flatbed with a newly rebuilt 351 Cleveland 4v in it, and those are not the mounts. Those are for a windsor, not a cleveland. Try autozone part # 2257. $10 each. best of luck to you. You will have fun with that motor in that truck.
I have only had mine on the road for maybe 3 months, and is still a work in progress. But damn is it fun. What are you running for a tranny. I have the FMX that came new with the motor, and so far, it seems to be a good strong tranny.
 
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Originally Posted by tre_93543
I have a 63 f250 Flatbed with a newly rebuilt 351 Cleveland 4v in it, and those are not the mounts. Those are for a windsor, not a cleveland. Try autozone part # 2257. $10 each. best of luck to you. You will have fun with that motor in that truck.
I have only had mine on the road for maybe 3 months, and is still a work in progress. But damn is it fun. What are you running for a tranny. I have the FMX that came new with the motor, and so far, it seems to be a good strong tranny.
Is yours 2wd or 4wd, and is there a difference?!
 
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