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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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I'd give the eco another year to iron out the CAC condensation and tune issues as I live in a humid area. If I HAD to buy one right now, I'd go with the 5.0L in a 1/2ton.

That's probably the one downfall of the ecoboost. Water collects in the intercooler, then when you give it gas, the water gets sucked into the engine. You know what happens then? No power and chugging, along with codes that need to be cleared.

I've heard lots of complaints on this and some are going to attempt a fix themselves, like drilling a very small hole in the bottom of the intercooler to let the water drain out, or a different intercooler. I don't believe drilling is a correct fix, but apparently the problem is bad enough, people want something done, now.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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Ahhh. Hadn't heard that, but it makes sense. Yes, I think I'd wait until they sort that out as well.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Here is what I have figured out based on my experience with selling the HD units. If they had properly designed the CAC from the beginning, it wouldn't be an issue. If you look at the F150 EB cooler compared to other units of similar size and flow, it is built "upside down" with the pipes toward the bottom of the tanks. The best I can figure is they did this so they could put it in with little to no modification of the core support, lessening production costs. All CAC's tend to condense, it's in their very nature. With the relatively low outlet height of the current design, it allows an increase in flow to easily pick up the slug of water that can easily on average be in the bottom two to three rows of tubes. If the outlet were higher, the rush of air is usually not able to pull the water up as far, unless maybe WOT, but that's unavoidable with the hair dryers at full tilt. The only other way to really do it with the low hanging outlet, would be to use a water separator type device, like the ones used on marine forced induction engines.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Interesting. I didn't know that. All I'd heard are good things about the Ecoboost. Had considered one but instead bought the Murano. Maybe I'm glad after hearing that. And besides, needing a pickup for the jaunt to DE it gives me an excuse to fix Dad's truck up.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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They have a couple fixes in the works for it, I'd figure by next MY, it'll be fine. Other than that it's a damn fine truck. And if you don't cruise steady in humid weather a lot, it's a non-issue. It's also only related to the F150, the other EB vehicles don't have it. Then there is the flaming Escapes...

On the Murano, you didn't buy a convertible did you?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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No, not a convertible. Don't see the purpose for it. Had a Miata and it was fun. But, a convertible SUV??? And, it takes premium fuel.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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there is a reason the 460 has dual tanks, cause its thirsty. its just to dogged out in stock form.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Interesting info on the Eco. I actually thought about a diesel however, I know absolutely nothing about them. I refuse to own something I know nothing about due to the fact of doing all the work on my own vehicles.
 
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