Most are probably not using it in the quanity and for commercial puroposes that you are.

You are going to eat up a good chunk of your day in your busy season hauling water?

If your hauler ain't using tractor trailers then you need to find someone that will IMO. That boils down to the cost problem.

 

Yeah, we are in a small town here up in the Rockies... Not a big city. There's only three companies that haul, and two subcontract themselves to the third cause they kept getting undercut and couldn't make money.

One trip per day, ten miles each way, during busy season isn't a big deal for me... I've got a couple employees to help too.

 

Small town rural is different from the big city and it's hard to imagine the extent of that difference sometimes. Taking an hour a day to run in the water is just prudent planning in some circumstances. I just moved to a new town, population 750, from a region where towns of 75,000 are considered small. I had an issue today that I was really upset about, I had an insurance company form to fill out and they needed the name and license number of the guy who installed my chimney for the wood burning furnace - or my insurance application would be denied! The thing was installed 12years ago, how the heck do I know? My oil furnace guy says "oh yeah, Walter installed that furnace, he's retired now, but I helped him, and Gord did all the chimneys back then." My insurance agent says "yeah, I thought Gord did that job, I have his number on file, no problems mate!"

Brian

 

And that's part of why I love small towns!

 

Dave just get ya a Pumphouse and put in a Line LOL


I used to work for an Oil Company that had a Hotel chain we got the water out of a Mine that was Probably 10-15miles away

Forget what they call it but that big wheel thing that trenches digs a Mile a day IIRC maybe half mile it was Alot though

I put in all the concreate for the pump houses and treatment plant

the Hotel would run short in summer same deal as you High price to truck it in

it was in the wyoming Desert

Probably be very expensive where your at to get a permit for that line if you could get one at all

But they can also put lines in with that deal that just Stabs them in you only make a Hole every 500ft or whatever

How much money you have LOL

 

Haha, nice, Benny! I have enough headaches dealing with state permits and requirements and inspections just for my pump house that chlorinated my water and pumps it up to my buildings... You wouldn't believe how much stupid paperwork there is... That's government for you, I guess... I can't imagine how much paperwork there would be for putting in a line ten miles long! I'd probably have to put in inspection and testing taps every hundred yards...

 

FYI, your GCWR cannot be determined until you figure out what trailer your going to be pulling. A tandem single tire trailer will have less GCWR than a tandem dual tire trailer will be capable of. How does the Ford booklet know your trailer specs? It doesn't. Stay under your GAWR's and get the best braking system on the trailer you can afford, and maintain it regularily.

 

But I thought GCWR was gross combined weight rating... In other words, how much the truck can legally carry, when adding the weight of truck, trailer, passengers, and cargo? If I'm correct (and I think I am), then the absolute max the 2003-2004 f250 and f350 trucks can run is 20,000 pounds... (2005-2007 added 3,000 pounds). So you take the weight of the truck (differs with options, bed size, cab type) the weight of the driver and passengers, and the weight of any cargo in your bed, and you're left with the weight that can be pulled... Which is trailer and trailer cargo. And for what it's worth, once you get into the truck weight of drw, 4x4, crew cab, and long wheel base, the amount towable is the same for fiver or conventional hitch... What I think I'm learning is that what Ford says is legal is way under capability and safety... As long as you have the right trailer with the right braking system.

 

There are 2 GCWR used in this convesation.

1.) Is the GCWR stated by Ford. This is no legal rating. Just a guideline.

2.) Is the GCWR(better stated as CGVWR, truck GVWR + trailer GVWR) used for CDL, DOT etc purposes.

 

Really? I was under the impression from another thread on here recently where a guy from Canada was complaining about the relatively low ratings from ford and saying he could get impounded for going over those... I'm 99% positive they are legal numbers, not just guidelines. But I'd be eager to hear confirmation that I'm wrong...

 

Pretend your a DOT officer and your going to inspect a vehicle towing a trailer for weight. Tell me how your going to do that?

 

This ain't Canada.

 

With your theory of legal weights, which of these trucks can legally haul more than the other.
#1 350 hp
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsde...x?OHID=3282749
#2 625 hp
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsde...x?OHID=3622269

 

In most places, the GVWR and GCWR have little to no significance in legal weight limits, in some places they do. Here, in Nova Scotia, as far as I can find out the GVWR has no legal significance, the registered GVW does have significance. But you can't legally register your truck for a higher GVW than your GVWR, so they get you round-about. I have never heard of GCWR having any legal significance anywhere.

Anyway, it depends on two things - what the rules are where you are registering your truck, and since there is no reciprocity on vehicle regulations between States, the rules in places where you drive your truck (and trailer). It's not uniform between States.

Jorlee, if you are a DOT officer and you want to inspect a trailer for weight, you say "please drive over my weight scales, these permanent ones, or these temporary ones I just set up over there. Or you say - you are impounded till you get to a scale." Happens all the time. Happened to me three times on one trip, driving my F250 and towing my 20' car trailer. Lights on the sign flashed "Truck report to scale" and I did.

Crete, please be polite about Canada. I don't go around saying United States of Duhmerica, or stuff like that, it just isn't very nice.

Brian

 

Well, easiest way is with axle scales... Weigh each axle at once and add it up...

Hey, I'm stoked if I'm wrong... I just don't think I am... Can anyone show me documentation that the ford gcwr is suggested? Everything in their wording implies that its not just suggested...