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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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I'm with you Garryk6. I 'm probably going to be keeping my '02 Zf-6 for quite awhile too...I like doing my own shifting.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasRebel
good... forget the numbers, they don't mean anything.

look at the percentages.

What percentage of pickups with a manual transmission sold? (100%?)

What percentage of pickups without a manual transmission sold? (not 100%?)

The total numbers were simply lower because they made fewer to begin with... not because they didn't sell.
It is about more than numbers of vehicles sold. It is also about return on investment. With no choice in transmission, the EPA certification program becomes easier, as you only have to certify 1/2 as many drive line combinations. Parts do not have to be made and stocked for manual transmissions and all associated hardware, manuals do not have to be written for manual shift trucks....all of these things cost $$$$$ and cut into the bottom line.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by redford
It is about more than numbers of vehicles sold. It is also about return on investment. With no choice in transmission, the EPA certification program becomes easier, as you only have to certify 1/2 as many drive line combinations. Parts do not have to be made and stocked for manual transmissions and all associated hardware, manuals do not have to be written for manual shift trucks....all of these things cost $$$$$ and cut into the bottom line.

Also, diesel exhaust regeneration is easier to accomplish with an auto trans.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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its all due to the lazy kids that want to text while driving im telling you.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by b-uno
its all due to the lazy kids that want to text while driving im telling you.
I can't text, eat a sandwich, read the paper, put on my makeup, drink a beer, AND shift at the same time. I knew there was a reason I bought an automatic.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kd0axs
put on my makeup
Please tell me you are of the female variety
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by b-uno
its all due to the lazy kids that want to text while driving im telling you.
Kids are so dumb now, I no longer believe in natural selection.

....all started with chinese video games....
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
Kids are so dumb now, I no longer believe in natural selection.

....all started with chinese video games....

i think its more of the parenting then the video game. they let videogames and tv raise them since they dont want to parent.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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i think its more of the parenting then the video game. they let videogames and tv raise them since they dont want to parent.
Could not agree more....
My daughter knows how to check the oil and tire pressures on her car and likes driving with a clutch because because I taught her those things. All of her friends know nothing more about an automobile than where to stick the ignition key...a manual transmission is something not of this planet to them....hence there demise.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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its really sad. guess thats the "change" we should expect. along with virtual friends.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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What's really sad is that we have several guys in their 30s/40s at my work that have no idea how to drive a manual transmission. That gets to be a problem because a good portion of our fleet vehicles are Rangers with manual transmissions. I really don't know why they even bother to hire anyone if they can't drive a manual.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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I've been to the local ryder and penske stores for rentals every now and then and its funny when you ask them specifically for a manual tranny equipped truck.

They always are saying they have cdl A drivers come in to rent trucks or pick up lease trucks and they can't because many can't or don't want to drive a stick shift. I think that ridiculous. How can you even get a CDL without knowing how to drive stick??

That being said, I would love to see ford return to a manual tranny option! I love the G56 tranny that dodge offers, the ratios seem to be very nice!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MexicanScaper987
How can you even get a CDL without knowing how to drive stick??
Easy, you show up with an F-350 and a trailer, take the test, and you go home with a class A CDL.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kd0axs
Easy, you show up with an F-350 and a trailer, take the test, and you go home with a class A CDL.
These days, even semis have automatic transmissions.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by b-uno
its all due to the lazy kids that want to text while driving im telling you.
Now that is a great reason for a manual trans vehicle in my opinion.

My son learned to drive in a '87 BMW 3 series 5 speed manual. No cup holders and no place for a cell phone. Pretty hard to text while having to shift gears.... Worked out great. When he graduated high school we got him a F-150 for college. It was a used truck but in good condition and automatic trans.

My daughter will start driving next summer. She is building her car now. '97 Pontiac TA WS6 with a 6 speed manual trans. It does have a cup holder though.....my little girl needs a little luxury now and then.

My wife drives a Super Duty most days but she does have a 'fun' car in the garage. It's older but still works....'76 Corvette with 4 speed manual trans. The manual trans was her idea, actually it was a requirement or she wouldn't own the car. I think it's kinda ironic that all our trucks are automatic while all our automobiles are manual trans. I guess our family is a bit backwards compared to most.
 
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