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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by snakedoc
there the same thing just one has a small **** and one has a bigger ****.
dose it need to be a momentary or toggle switch.
i will have to look and see if i can find the color wires in the manuel
You could accomplish it with either, but a continous switch would be preferred in my opinion, so that you wouldn't have to time your momentary at the right time.

Originally Posted by mec500
so heavy load for extended peirods of time will not cause any problems ? or i should be ok dont know till i try it .
If your transmission, and transfer case are in good working condition now you should not have a problem at all. It could/should be actually better for the trans and also keep you in the power band better.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mec500
one of my favorite vacation spots involves a severe grade a relentless atleast 10 percent with hairpin turns for around ten miles ( nine mile rd near pearson ville ca ) . in a new to me 2002 f350 towing 12k would i benifit from using 2 low in a taller gear to reduce load on the auto trans going up and increase engine braking going down .can the transfer case handle this load for an extented time ? what are opinions or experiences .
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I slowly hauled my 5er up Hiway 155 to Lake Isabella near there, pretty effing brutal. The xfer case and engine will be fine, especially if you go 2 low. The trans is the issue. If you have opportunity throw on a 6.0 cooler first. Low road speed plus steep grades is the recipe for cooking your trans. Otherwise I think your idea of 2 low is excellent.

You have manual hubs? A real trans gauge or just the dash gauge?

And just between us, one camper to another, tell me this secret camping spot!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aawlberninf350
I slowly hauled my 5er up Hiway 155 to Lake Isabella near there, pretty effing brutal. The xfer case and engine will be fine, especially if you go 2 low. The trans is the issue. If you have opportunity throw on a 6.0 cooler first. Low road speed plus steep grades is the recipe for cooking your trans. Otherwise I think your idea of 2 low is excellent.

You have manual hubs? A real trans gauge or just the dash gauge?

And just between us, one camper to another, tell me this secret camping spot!
yes manual hubs , real trans gauge and a 40 k tru cool in series with stock cooler . kennedy meadows is the place to ride dirtbikes in the summer no secret i hear the fishing is good too and the drive thins out the crouds
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAlsPSD
I use 2 low all the time, not for 10 miles, but depending on speed I wouldn't see any issue, I have been in 4 Low for about 60 miles before on trails and scenic drives.

To Greg and Joey, just don't luck the hubs, and shift the transfer case, a nice luxury of having the manual transfer and hubs.

On one of my previous trucks, I had ESOF, and wired a bypass switch next to the ESOF to cut out the Pulse Vacuum Hub Solenoid to allow for the hubs to stay in "auto" disengaged and allow the transfer case to still shift into 4 low.
Pretty cool idea....sounds useful too. I'll try and find out where the PVHS is located and wire up a disconnect switch.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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I use 4L w/o locking my hubs quite often in the back country of Nevada...have run it for hours doing this...10 miles will be easy. I would add this proviso, there is a hell of a lot of torque being sent to those rear wheels. Avoid bouncing the truck around on washboard roads (brutal on axles and driveline if the tires get off the ground and then return to ground), just take it easy and you will be fine. I would have a tranny temp gauge on that auto tranny for sure.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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I use 4L w/o locking my hubs quite often in the back country of Nevada...have run it for hours doing this...10 miles will be easy. I would add this proviso, there is a hell of a lot of torque being sent to those rear wheels. Avoid bouncing the truck around on washboard roads (brutal on axles and driveline if the tires get off the ground and then return to ground), just take it easy and you will be fine. I would have a tranny temp gauge on that auto tranny for sure.
this is a paved road but very steep with tight turns 10-15 mph max .i will be towing a loaded fifth wheel at around 12k slow and steady is the plan
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mec500
this is a paved road but very steep with tight turns 10-15 mph max .i will be towing a loaded fifth wheel at around 12k slow and steady is the plan
Do you have a tranny temperature gauge? Do yourself a BIG favor and put one on it BEFORE this haul...sure hate to burn up the tranny.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nlemerise
Do you have a tranny temperature gauge? Do yourself a BIG favor and put one on it BEFORE this haul...sure hate to burn up the tranny.
as stated earler i have a after market trans temp gauge and a 40k trucool mounted in series with stock cooler
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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as stated earler i have a after market trans temp gauge and a 40k trucool mounted in series with stock cooler
OK, you can stop laughing at this old blind guy !
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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not laughing. all input is welcome this site is a great resouce and some things are worth mentioning more than once
 
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FWIW, I just unplugged the solenoid on the passenger side of the engine bay so that anytime I put my ESOF switch to 4wd, the front hubs dont attempt to engage (they didn't really engage automatically anyways, I've had a vacuum leak there for as long as I can remember).
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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I have manual hubs and t case, I use 2wd low when backing up (truck hardly moves in R) and when other wise working in tight quarters with a trailer. A lot easily on the clutch etc.

I actually HAD to use low range to start a loaded trailer in soft dirt one time, the truck wanted to stall out in L on the ZF-6, lots of traction, just dead weight!

As far as hauling extended distance in 2 Low, go for it, just keep in mind your top speed is quite limited, but by the sounds of it, you plan SLOW anyways.

I tried to see how fast I could go in 4 low on a snowy road, seem to me the 7.3 was reving high in 6th and I wasn't doing 40 MPH
 
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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thanks for all the replies. 2 low it is thats what i wanted to hear i dosent sound like any one has had any transfercase isues and i will feel much safer hauling my family with the extra controll going up and down this grade
 
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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I use it for low speed but I'm careful with it and usually only on dirt or gravel.

Neal was the first to get to the right idea. The transmission will be fine as long as it (or the engine) doesn't get too warm from low road speed. Remember in 4L the torque the trans sees is 37% of what it would be in 2H or 4H in the same scenario. The transfercase will be fine as well. The 271/273 is so overbuilt you'll break something else first...which leads to...
the rear driveshaft and the pinion shaft. That is your problem area. You increase the torque on the rear driveline by 2.72 when using 2L. That's why you aren't given the choice of 2L. Pulling too hard on dry pavement in 2L you run the risk of a pretzeled driveshaft or a broken pinion shaft or other rear end calamities.
 
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