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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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dagenham diesel

greetings folks,
I have acquired one of the old D-4 diesel engines, they guy i got it from claimed it was factory in a '64 F-350, i'm skeptical. the situation i'm in is finding parts for it to put in a *****'s pick up. i have the bellhousing, and a clutch. What i need are parts numbers for a throwout bearing and the possibility of finding an adapter plate.

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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dmitrikubbs
I have acquired one of the old D-4 diesel engines, they guy i got it from claimed it was factory in a '64 F-350, i'm skeptical. the situation i'm in is finding parts for it to put in a ****** pick up. i have the bellhousing, and a clutch. What i need are parts numbers for a throwout bearing and the possibility of finding an adapter plate.
No F350 came with a diesel engine until 1983.

Dagenham 4's (220 or 242 cid) & 6's (330 or 363 cid) were installed in 1961/70 P350/500 Parcel Delivery's, C500/700, F500/700, N500/700.

There is a cross reference chart Dagenham to Ford engine part numbers in the 1964/72 Ford truck parts catalog, but no trans related parts are listed.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Thanks a lot, i'll start with the F500, and see where i can get from there. it's nice to find someone who actually knows that these motors even existed
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No F350 came with a diesel engine until 1983.

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You can not make a general statement like that. This '64 F 350 could have been special ordered with a diesel thru the DSO sysem.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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but i'm assuming they all would have used the same bellhousing.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by oaklandford
You can not make a general statement like that. This '64 F 350 could have been special ordered with a diesel thru the DSO sysem.
All sorts of stuff could be ordered under a DSO that will not be shown in parts catalogs. First factory installed not a DSO diesel: Navistar 6.9L 1983 F250/350.

So, what diesel might this be? Do you have the fleet managers data book that shows that a diesel could be DSO ordered for a 1964 F350?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by oaklandford
You can not make a general statement like that. This '64 F 350 could have been special ordered with a diesel thru the DSO sysem.
You will learn not to argue with NumberDummy's wealth of technical data. Welcome to the forum.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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If it was DSO, Then the VIN would clarify what engine it left the factory with.

Post the VIN from the F350.

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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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A DSO truck could have been built with the period offerings at the time, depending of course how much extra $$$ the original buyer wanted to spend.Many of these trucks are "one off" and there probably very, few if any, others like it built in the country. A 330 MD or 361 HD in a '64 F 350 ? why not it would fit under the hood. The Dag diesel that was a standard option in a 1 ton Parcel Vans (4cyl) or a N or C series (6cyl) could have been special ordered and installed in a 1 ton F series. Some Detroit 4-53's were special ordered on '62-'63 C series for customers who prefered that engine over the English Dag and were willing to pay for it.
 
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What resources are available for Dagenham 4?

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No F350 came with a diesel engine until 1983.

Dagenham 4's (220 or 242 cid) & 6's (330 or 363 cid) were installed in 1961/70 P350/500 Parcel Delivery's, C500/700, F500/700, N500/700.

There is a cross reference chart Dagenham to Ford engine part numbers in the 1964/72 Ford truck parts catalog, but no trans related parts are listed.
How would on go about knowing what one had in a 1968 P350? Or is it a G350?

Here is the ID plate photo...
 
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Old May 18, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 555 Studio
How would on go about knowing what one had in a 1968 P350? Or is it a G350?
Gas P 350 or Diesel P 3500
 
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Old May 18, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gfw1985
You will learn not to argue with NumberDummy's wealth of technical data.
Your right, arguing is a waste of time with ND, most want see pictures. 330 Dagenham 6 cyl diesel factory installed in a F series.
 
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Old May 19, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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Thanks!

Originally Posted by tripleframe
Gas P 350 or Diesel P 3500
ND sent a reply to my email confirming the 242 Dorset version of the diesel.

It has a four speed so now I can see what trans it has.

I still have to guess on final rear end/drive ratio until I get it in the shop or order the manual.

Will the decoder provide final drive info from the ID plate?

Again, thanks for the help.
 
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Old May 19, 2016 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 555 Studio
ND sent a reply to my email confirming the 242 Dorset version of the diesel.

It has a four speed so now I can see what trans it has.

I still have to guess on final rear end/drive ratio until I get it in the shop or order the manual.

Will the decoder provide final drive info from the ID plate?
Why are you asking these questions in the 1961/66 forum, since your P350 is a 1968?

Did you notice that post 9 was typed 9/08/2012?

TRANS F = Borg-Warner T-18 4 speed manual.

AXLE 23 = Dana 70 / 5.13-1 / 7,400 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.
 
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Old May 19, 2016 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Why are you asking these questions in the 1961/66 forum, since your P350 is a 1968?

Did you notice that post 9 was typed 9/08/2012?

TRANS F = Borg-Warner T-18 4 speed manual.

AXLE 23 = Dana 70 / 5.13-1 / 7,400 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.
Thanks for the axle and ratio.

I originally did not know the year when I first posted ID help under another string I initiated. Meanwhile, I was casting about to find the info on any thread that had this type of diesel.

I wish I could re-post my request in the correct forum but now it is moot between you and Triple Beam, so thanks and sorry for the cross posting.
 
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