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About the C-Max, when Ford put the info on it up on their website, I thought the pics inside of the rear area made it look smaller inside back there than the 2012 and earlier Escape.
The 2013 Escape has a longer wheelbase and overall length than the 2012 Escape.
The C-Max has a shorter wheelbase and overall length than even the 2012 Escape.
Comparing the space after the 1st row and after the 2nd row (using cu. ft. listed on the Ford website), the C-Max has less volume by quite a bit as compared to the 2013 Escape. I'll have to hunt up a brocure for the 2008 - 2012 Escape to see what it's numbers were.
The C-Max's 47 City/47 HWY MPG are impressive. And, it runs on 87 octane regular
If indeed the C-Max's internal space is less than the previous generation Escape, but if you can make a go of that, it looks like an interesting vehicle.
The Ford website says the 2013 C-Max is an all electric vehicle. Am I looking at a different vehicle?
C-Max Hybrid -- 2.0L gas engine with electric motor and battery. C-Max "Energi" -- Plug-in Hybrid. As above, but with a much bigger onboard battery, and a charge port.
And then there will be an all-electric C-Max, but I would expect those to be bought or leased by utilities, cities, and consumer pioneers.
No more Escape Hybrid. 2012 was the last year for it. 2013 Hybrids are the Fusion version, and the C-Max.
I picked up my 2013 Escape Titanium on Wed. My first look at the tech goodies this vehicle has it will not be a do it yourselfer. Electric Power Steering, Keyless Start, Blind Spot Info System. To give you an idea on the number of electric devices it has 3 separate fuse panels. One under the hood, passenger compartment and one in the cargo area.
The Plus's of this vehicle
1. Power! I have driven 3.0's from the previous generation and this 2.0 Ecoboost will move effortlessly and is rated at 22 and 30 hwy.
2. 6 Speed Transmission - Smooth and you really don't feel shiftpoints
3. Interior Quality. The leather is top notch for the class and is very comfortable in terms of seat bolstering, adjustable head rests, soft touch materials where you rest your arms, etc.
The only negatives I can really see at this point are:
1. Pricing can get steep with fully equipped models
2. There are some Asians out there that look similar.
Its only been 3 days and 180 miles and I got a nasty cold the day I picked her up so I havent had time to play with everything but I assure you its worth a serious look. I considered jumping the Ford fence to a Jeep GC. The Jeep is a little larger (and more expensive to buy and operate) but Ford has them beat in all areas IMO.
Thank you for all the responses. I will surely keep away from the 2013 Escape for the reasons stated, mostly all the recalls. That is why I previously stated I am very leary about getting a vehicle the first model year it is introduced. I do feel for those who bought the 2013 Escape and now facing a multitude of problems.
Also for the prices I have seen for the Escape, I think you can do better quality wise for that kind of money. The Nissan Rogue, in my opinion is a much better built vehicle than the Escape. For my needs though, the Rogue might a bit too small since I have to cart around 2 dogs at times.
Think I will stick with my 2003 Escape for awhile, runs great and just had front and rear brakes done on it and put in new swaybar link bushings, front end feels like its brand new now.
I have seen them on the road. Nice looking vehicle. But all of these new vehicles are way more than I would ever dream of paying. I buy used for cheap & run them until they quit & buy another.
I got my 2013 Escape Titanium last Friday. I replaced a 1990 Honda Accord with 328,000 miles. Since I work about 50 miles from home my goal was something that got close to the same mileage as the Honda (30mpg) but could tow our seadoo. We got every option except for the ash tray/coin holder (30 bucks). With the tow package you lose the kick feature for hands free rear hatch opening and you have to get the 2.0L ecoboost. I agree with the above post the 2.0l has lots of power and shifts pretty smooth. I got right at 300 miles on it this week and at least according to the computer its getting about 24.6 mpg with regular 87 gas. I might try premium in the next tank to see what the mpgs do, I really was hoping to be on the higher end of the EPA estimate (28) since I mainly do highway driving, it definitely gets better at 60 then 70mph.
I love the blind spot detectors and the parallel parking assist is cool. The MyFordTouch system is way cooler then the Ford Sync nab system in our 2012 F350. I got the driver and front passenger door windows tinted to match the others and installed the mud guards.
As far as complaints, couple of minor things, I would not have bought the Ford all weather floor mats, had I known the drivers side stops before the petals, pretty much worthless for protecting the carpets, I'm looking to buy either Husky or Weathertech floor liners but Weathertech doesn't have the 2013 yet so probably will be the Husky's. The sun roof tilt feature only tilts about .5 inches, even the F350 goes up about 2 or 3 inches, it does slide all the way back though. Finally, either I'm completely stupid or there is something wrong with the headlight switch. The switch has 4 controls, one for the fog lights on/off (works fine), one for parking lights/headlights/auto (works fine), and two for the instrument light brightness a + and a -. The dash lights are so bright at night they are actually a bother, but when I press the - or press and hold the - nothing happenings. Was thinking I should pull the switch and inspect it, but since its so new I think I might just bring it back to the dealership.
I would definately keep the Escape on the list to watch. Sure Ford issued 3 recalls but they did so immediately and came up with a repair quickly. On the other hand I had a Nissan 350Z the first year of a new model which was chewing up tires within 2-3 miles. For months Nissan denied there was a problem with the geometry of the front suspension but then issued a Technical Service Bulletin on alignment. They continued to replace my tires free of charge for the next 8 months until they had a permananent alignment "fix".
I am not a Japanese basher as my family is in the business but I commend Ford for their quick action. Another point to be made is the Rogue has a CVT transmission with a very unique shiftless feel, which you may or may not like over time and I wouldn't tow with it.
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Originally Posted by tonyford
Thank you for all the responses. I will surely keep away from the 2013 Escape for the reasons stated, mostly all the recalls. That is why I previously stated I am very leary about getting a vehicle the first model year it is introduced. I do feel for those who bought the 2013 Escape and now facing a multitude of problems.
Also for the prices I have seen for the Escape, I think you can do better quality wise for that kind of money. The Nissan Rogue, in my opinion is a much better built vehicle than the Escape. For my needs though, the Rogue might a bit too small since I have to cart around 2 dogs at times.
Think I will stick with my 2003 Escape for awhile, runs great and just had front and rear brakes done on it and put in new swaybar link bushings, front end feels like its brand new now.
My wife and I bought a new '13 SE 2WD 1.6L on Friday 9/14. Recall fixes were performed by the dealer before it even went on the lot for sale. We've put almost 1000 miles on it in four days. It's absolutely great so far. Averaging 27.8MPG (I had it up to 30.1 but then my wife drove it about 400 miles).
Beyond the standard SE equipment, ours is optioned with power panorama glass roof, MyFord Touch, equipment package 201A (roof rack, cargo area cover, perimeter alarm
), and 18" polished aluminum wheels.
It was a little spendy though. We were choosing between a Fusion SEL and the Escape. We liked the Escape enough to spend the extra money.
My wife and I bought a new '13 SE 2WD 1.6L on Friday 9/14. Recall fixes were performed by the dealer before it even went on the lot for sale. We've put almost 1000 miles on it in four days. It's absolutely great so far. Averaging 27.8MPG (I had it up to 30.1 but then my wife drove it about 400 miles).
Beyond the standard SE equipment, ours is optioned with power panorama glass roof, MyFord Touch, equipment package 201A (roof rack, cargo area cover, perimeter alarm
), and 18" polished aluminum wheels.
It was a little spendy though. We were choosing between a Fusion SEL and the Escape. We liked the Escape enough to spend the extra money.
Wow...in two weeks I havent clicked 1,000 miles. Sounds like you are getting good mpg. I have the 2.0 and am now averaging 25.5. The first tank was a low 22. Did you notice any changes in shifting or performance after 1K?
My wife and I bought a new '13 SE 2WD 1.6L on Friday 9/14. Recall fixes were performed by the dealer before it even went on the lot for sale. We've put almost 1000 miles on it in four days. It's absolutely great so far. Averaging 27.8MPG (I had it up to 30.1 but then my wife drove it about 400 miles).
Beyond the standard SE equipment, ours is optioned with power panorama glass roof, MyFord Touch, equipment package 201A (roof rack, cargo area cover, perimeter alarm
), and 18" polished aluminum wheels.
It was a little spendy though. We were choosing between a Fusion SEL and the Escape. We liked the Escape enough to spend the extra money.
Wow...in two weeks I havent clicked 1,000 miles. Sounds like you are getting good mpg. I have the 2.0 and am now averaging 25.5. The first tank was a low 22. Did you notice any changes in shifting or performance after 1K?
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