Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

Gas gauge not working

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:31 PM
  #1  
f250custom78's Avatar
f250custom78
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Wyandotte, MI
Gas gauge not working

The title says it all. My gas gauge isnt working. i put about 5 gallons in and it says its empty. When I turn the key its below the empty line and moves up to the line. Any ideas whats wrong and how to fix it?

Also when I put gas in it seems to sit in the filler neck and slowly drain into the tank. Any idea whats going on there?

Thanks in advance
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:47 PM
  #2  
Tans73F250's Avatar
Tans73F250
New User
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
I had the same problem with my truck so I took out the sending unit and cleaned a bunch of crap off of it. Then I had to fix a hole in the fuel float because it was full of gas. Now it works when it wants but I think the old ones get James and army accurate. Just my opinion tho good luck!
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:48 PM
  #3  
Tans73F250's Avatar
Tans73F250
New User
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Sorry I mean get jamed and are not very accurate
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:48 PM
  #4  
f250custom78's Avatar
f250custom78
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Wyandotte, MI
Il try that when I have access to a lift at school
Thanks for the help
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 11:09 PM
  #5  
keiths78f150's Avatar
keiths78f150
Laughing Gas
10 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,123
Likes: 0
From: Southern Illinois
X2 on the sending unit.
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2012 | 11:12 PM
  #6  
f250custom78's Avatar
f250custom78
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Wyandotte, MI
Someone told me it could be a bad ground. Where would the ground be at?
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2012 | 05:50 AM
  #7  
fmc400's Avatar
fmc400
MSEE
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 10,386
Likes: 35
From: Austin, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
Most common problems are:

1) Bad sending unit
2) Float filled with gas
3) Bad ground

The sending unit grounds to the nearby frame cross member unless you have an in-cab tank. The frame is grounded by a ground strap attached to the firewall, which itself is grounded to the engine block through another ground strap. The frame does not ground directly to the block through the motor mounts, which is a common misconception.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 02:08 AM
  #8  
f250custom78's Avatar
f250custom78
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Wyandotte, MI
How do I know if the ground is bad?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:13 AM
  #9  
fmc400's Avatar
fmc400
MSEE
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 10,386
Likes: 35
From: Austin, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
Turn the key to accessory, then crawl underneath the truck and unplug the sending unit. Firmly connect the sending unit lead to the nut that grounds the sending unit pigtail on the crossmember by means of a jumper wire or alligator clips. If all the wiring is good (including the ground), the gauge will peg to FULL.

If that doesn't work, try grounding it to bed sheetmetal instead. If that works, then the problem is at least the ground. The sending unit can then be troubleshot with a multimeter.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:47 AM
  #10  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 785
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Gas gauge not working

Originally Posted by f250custom78
My gas gauge isn't working. I put about 5 gallons in and it says it's empty. When I turn the key, it's below the empty line and moves up to the line. Any ideas what's wrong and how to fix it?

Also when I put gas in, it seems to sit in the filler neck and slowly drains into the tank. Any idea what's going on there?
The sending unit float is made from two pieces of copper soldered together. Solder breaks down, gas seeps in, float settles to the bottom of the tank.

COAZ-9202-B .. Sending Unit Float / Available from Ford ~ MSRP: $15.94 ~ FTE Ford Dealer Parts Dept sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $10.52 / Tousley Ford: White Bear Lake MN

Applications: ALL 1957/79 FoMoCo vehicles.
------------------------------------------
If the vent hose has collapsed, these notoriously slow-fill fuel filler tubes become even slower. As original, the vent hose was taped (black electrical tape) to the filler hose in three places.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 07:18 AM
  #11  
dynamic's Avatar
dynamic
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,322
Likes: 20
From: Rhode Island
Dennis Carpenter carries a solid float made by Stewart Warner

part # 68-9275-S





The Vent hose needs to be secured to the fill hose, but higher than the fill hose.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 01:27 PM
  #12  
81-F-150-Explorer's Avatar
81-F-150-Explorer
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
X2 on checking the float in this case.

The sending unit is working, or passing current to ground. This is why the gauge raises to the "E" line when the ignition switch is turned on.

If it was a ground issue, the gauge would not come up to the "E" line. It would remain below empty, like when the ignition switch is in the off position.


Now off on a tangent...

Originally Posted by FMC400;
The frame is grounded by a ground strap attached to the firewall, which itself is grounded to the engine block through another ground strap. The frame does not ground directly to the block through the motor mounts, which is a common misconception.
The engine to firewall ground is pretty straight forward.

Where is the ground located, between firewall and frame? I've yet to see that one, and it's not listed in the factory wiring diagrams I have. Not saying there isn't one, because, read below...

I have seen some strange ways Ford grounded things. Through the steering column to the gear box to the frame. With the rag joint having a small ground strap connecting the seperate pieces. Without that ground the horn doesn't work among other things etc...

Another on the 300-6's is to run the Negative battery cable down to the frame where a metal tang, pinched on the cable, grounds the frame, halfway along the cable. The cable continues to one of the starters mounting bolts.

And yes I've seen them grounded through the motor mounts as well. With a grounding strap running through it in a similar way of the rag joint etc...

With swapping out original parts with aftermarket, those grounds above tend to be eliminated. I can't tell you how many times people have had questions on why electrics suddenly went wacky, only to find that one of those ground were eliminated by swapping a part.

It depends on year, engine, and model where the grounds are located and how. There is more than one way, etc...
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 03:20 PM
  #13  
fmc400's Avatar
fmc400
MSEE
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 10,386
Likes: 35
From: Austin, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
On mine (1979 F100) it is on the driver side of the cab at the bottom attached to a spot where the cab sheetmetal "lips" around. I will try to get a picture this evening.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:10 PM
  #14  
f250custom78's Avatar
f250custom78
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Wyandotte, MI
Can I take the sending unit out of the tank while its still on the truck? or does it need to be taken off
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:56 PM
  #15  
fmc400's Avatar
fmc400
MSEE
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 10,386
Likes: 35
From: Austin, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
If this is an aft tank, no, the sending unit is on top. The tank has to drop, or the bed come off.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:56 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE