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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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5.4l RUNNING BAD

My 03 f250 5.4l 66,000 miles, just started running bad on my way home from work today. As soon as I started it I noticed the whole truck vibrating more than usual while idling, decrease in power and sometimes the power will kick in and out. We had a heavy down pour of rain today and was thinking maybe the cop's got wet?

can a heavy rain get into the engine just sitting in the parking lot?

there's no check engine light on.

I did a quick check on cylinders 1 and 5, pulled the cop's, checked the boots for tears and water and it all looked good.

I realize I need to check the other cylinders, but I wanted to get on here and see if you guys think Im looking in the right place before I did all of them.. Thanks!!!!
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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When were the plugs changed? You might have a bad COP. Wich is what it sounds like. When they develop very small hairline cracks moisture will work its way in there. Do you have any codes/check engine light?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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Pull the coils

I replaced all my coil boots and springs and I still had a miss. I pulled the coils and realized that five of my ten coils had cracks in the bodies. I recommend pulling the coils and thoroughly inspecting them.

Here is a pic



You can buy an 8 pack of coil boots and springs on eBay for about $20.00.

Thanks
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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thanks for the pic jerem0621 now I know what to look for Ill have to take a closer look at them. The plugs are stock I believe Kdr358 and there isn't a check engine light on.

I guess Im gonna have to check them all out

Thanks for the help
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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thanks for the pic jerem0621 now I know what to look for Ill have to take a closer look at them. The plugs are stock I believe Kdr358 and there isn't a check engine light on.

I guess Im gonna have to check them all out

Thanks for the help
Have the truck scanned for pending codes. It takes a lot of misfires, almost a dead cylinder, to light the CEL.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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Do the free scanners that you can use at like autozone detect pending codes?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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Do the free scanners that you can use at like autozone detect pending codes?
Yes, absolutely.

Even a cheap Amazon/eBay scanner would work. (not a bad thing to have in the old tool box)
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 05:38 AM
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Do the free scanners that you can use at like autozone detect pending codes?
Some do, most do not, but the key is the person flying the scanner has to know to look for them.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 08:00 AM
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thanks for all the help I think Ill get it scanned and hopefully one of the stores around here have one that checks pending codes!

If not ill be taking them all out today (attempting) this is the first time Ive had to do it on this truck, from what everyone says its not easy!!
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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So i just got back from advanced auto parts and got misfire code p0307.

What spark plug should I buy?

Should i just go ahead and do all of them?

Im letting the engine cool and then im going to pull #7 cop and see if its anything obvious.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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More than likely the #7 cop is shot. As for plugs go motorcraft only.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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HELP Please

MORE INTERESTING NEWS!!

So I pulled out number 7 spark plug and I look at it and find that the plug is motorcraft but the thread portion of the plug is a larger diameter than the other two that ive pulled and the new ones that I just bought.........errrr

so does this mean the previous owner must have stripped it out or something and thats how you fix it?

I dont know where to go from here. can I get a plug like that?

Im gonna try and post a pic of it.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:31 PM
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the far left is the one that came out of #7 which was misfiring,
middle was from #1 which I pulled to see what was up with #7
and the right is the new set that I just bought

WHAT IS THIS
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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That looks like a helicoil insert that came out with the plug.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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Ok so that doesn't sound good at all....

where does that leave me????

is this something Ill have to bring to a dealer?
 
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