I was on my way to Seattle yesterday to deliver a camper when I noticed a 1969 F250 crew cab 4x4 on the side of the road for sale. Well I know how rare they are so on my way back through today I stopped to look at it. Truck is actually cute solid and straight. It was sitting in front of a garage, and it belonged to one of his customers. Now this truck is a crew cab long bed. I didn't think Ford offered this until 1979? The drive train looks original. There was a paper on the dash that had a different v.i.n. from the door tag, but it could be from another truck. The guy said when he gets back in state on Monday he'll double check the v.i.n. On the title for clarification. Now the v.i.n. On the old registration reads 1967 black 1 ton: F35YCB40073. The tag on the door reads:

F25YCC92236
149 F253 3 81 A 24
06100 179 4000 730067

I would appreciate any help here & all comments welcome.

 

Do NOT believe a single word a seller claims. Private sellers lie just like used/new car dealers, lawyers, politicians and TV evangelists.

I'd be very leery of this truck, would verify the VIN on the title with the hidden frame VIN stamped atop the right (passenger) side frame rail in front of, or partially under the cab.

People replaced damaged left doors with used doors. 99.9% of the time, they failed to install the original Warranty Plate on the replaced door.

This might be the situation here, might not be, because...

F25 = F250 2WD (F26 = F250 4WD).

Y = 360 2V

C = Oakville, Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant.

C92236 = 1968 .. assembled February 1968.

149" Wheelbase.

COLOR code blank.*

F253 = F250 2WD, 6,100 lbs. GVWR

381: 3 = Medium Beige Crush Vinyl & Medium Beige Ladder Pattern Vinyl // 81 = 81A Standard Cab.

A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

24 = Dana 60 Rear Axle / 4.10-1 / no Limited Slip / 5,200 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.

6,100 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

179 net HP @ 4,000 RPM

730067: 73 = Salt Lake City UT Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

0067 = Domestic Special Order number. The truck was ordered special by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."

* When there is no COLOR code stamped on the Warranty Plate, the vehicle is painted a non standard color per the original purchasers request. This makes a vehicle a Domestic Special Order.

6,100 GVWR F250 2WD was the lightest capacity F250 available. Unless it has optional dual piston caliper front disc brakes, it has 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear drum brakes.

Other F250 2WD GVWR's have 12" x 2 1/2" front/rear drum brakes, or if optional dual piston caliper disc brakes: 12" x 2 1/2" rear drum brakes.

Dual piston caliper disc brakes optional: 1968/72 F250 2WD & F350 / F100/250 4WD's were not available with disc brakes until 1976.
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F35YCB40073

F35 = F350 (no F350 4WD's until 1979).

Y = 352 2V.

C = Oakville, Ontario Canada Truck Assemby Plant.

B40073 = 1967 .. assembled June 1967.

All 1967/79 Crew Cabs were assembled in Canada.

 

Hey Bill thanks for the input. This truck looks really good and solid. It really does look all original. I am going to try to find out some more info. It looks like the l/f door has probably been changed. If the title shows either of those two v.i.n. #'s I am going to be extremely leary.

 

Bill, tell me more about an F-250 regular cab with 149" wheelbase. Would that have been a cab and chassis?

 

Good question. What is the wheel base on a F250 regular cab long bed? I know I parked my 94 F350 crew cab long bed next to this one and the wheel bases looked very similar. O wonder if this truck could've been ordered as a crew cab cab&chassis, and then the owner could've put a 8' bed from that era pn the chassis? It looks factory, but I don't think Ford made a crew cab long bed until 79??

 

It is a conversion 4wd, either by a company such as Marmon-Herrington, or a previous owner, as the VIN states it started as a 2wd. The door tag correlates to a CC 2wd F-250 w/ 149" wb. The F-350 VIN could mean a 2wd CC with a 164.5" wb:

68fact-brochure_p07

A regular cab LB is only 131". Also this:

68fact-brochure_p06

 

So the door tag is crew cab 2wd? I was thinking Bill said the door tag was a regular cab F250 2 wheel drive. If this is a factory conversion that would be really neat. We did measure the truck while I was there. From bumped to bumper it is 21'. The wheels is 13' 10". We don't know if the one ton v.i.n. Is from this truck or not. It was found on an old registration card in a stack of papers in the glove compartment. I am anxiously waiting to see what the v.i.n. On the title reads. I know this sounds like a Frankentruck, but it is actually a really cool old truck. I found it on the Canadian border in Montana in a town on the railroad tracks. I thought it might've been special ordered by the Railroad.

 

Your measurement of 166" is close to a CC F-350 wb measurement of 164.5" wb measurement. I would figure it was an F-350 crew, but only the frame VIN would show for sure. It left the Ford factory as a 2wd if that F-350 VIN is correct, but a Marti Report should show if it went to a conversion company like M-H, but ND can confirm that if it does.

 

That is excellent. Thanks Rich. As soon as I get the v.i.n. On the title I will let you know. I wasn't even aware marmon herrington did any conversions after 1959.

 

Crew cabs have no model designation of their own and there seem to be no numbers as to how many were built. They were built in Canada by a company named Crown something. I was once under the impression that all the F-250s were short beds and all the F-350s were long beds and the 100 or so I've seen followed that criteria.

 

Ford started building their own CC's in Canada in 1965 and thereafter. Crown built CC's have external hinges for the rear doors.

 

The rear doors on mine have internal hinges like at factory build. Were these built at Oakville Truck in Ontario? I will try to post a photo link....

 

http://s1049.photobucket.com/albums/s393/broncoman289

 

Crown Coach is not located in Canada, only assembled early 1965 crews and prior years. One of Crown Coach's assembly plants located in Los Angeles. If the name seems familiar, have assembled school busses for decades.

FoMoCo's Oakville, Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant (code C - 5th digit of VIN) assembled mid-year 1965 and later crews (thru at least 1979).

Since martiauto.com has ALL the original 1967/79 FoMoCo records, I would assume he has the production figures. Be prepared to pay a fee for Marti's services (known in the hobby as a Marti Report).

No records are available prior to 1967, as FoMoCo THREW THEM AWAY decades ago. Only records available are for GT350's & Cobra's, as 'ol Shel kept his own records.
Early 1965 crews were assembled by Crown Coach (were modified from Regular Cabs), have external rear door hinges. The rear door window frames are a different shape than the factory crews assembled beginning mid-model year 1965.

Prior to mid-model year 1965, all crew cabs were conversions. AFAIK, all 1965/72 FoMoCo crews were modified from Regular Cabs.

There are NO specific to crew cab only parts listed in the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog ~ NONE!!

FTE member garbz2 probably knows more about '65/72 crews than anyone else here on FTE.

 

The bed is not '69. Marker lights started in '70.