Identifing circuit numbers ?
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Identifing circuit numbers ?
Hi All,
Near the bottom of the left B pillar on my 1999 E-250 are two unused connectors. Since these are located near where I will be install an electrical panel for my RV conversion I wanted to find if there was anything there that I might be able to use. I looked through my 1998 Econoline "Electrical Vaccum and Troubleshooting Manual" and found that the connectors are listed as C301 and C302.
The circuit number for each pin on the connectors are identified (on page 150-21 and 22) but the problem is I can't find a way to cross reference the circuit numbers. Looked through the manual several times but the only way I've found to track a circuit number is look for it on each page. There must be a better way.
Thanks for your time.
Dave
Near the bottom of the left B pillar on my 1999 E-250 are two unused connectors. Since these are located near where I will be install an electrical panel for my RV conversion I wanted to find if there was anything there that I might be able to use. I looked through my 1998 Econoline "Electrical Vaccum and Troubleshooting Manual" and found that the connectors are listed as C301 and C302.
The circuit number for each pin on the connectors are identified (on page 150-21 and 22) but the problem is I can't find a way to cross reference the circuit numbers. Looked through the manual several times but the only way I've found to track a circuit number is look for it on each page. There must be a better way.
Thanks for your time.
Dave
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Dave I've checked my printed '00 EVTM as well as the '97 CD-ROM (both very close to your chassis) and neither specify what those connectors fit---WOW was all I could say. I'm guessing they could be for a rear heater/AC unit, delayed illumination module/RKE or perhaps speaker connections. There's just no way of telling with our respective publications.
95e150CW has an extensive library on the E-Series chassis---maybe PM him or perhaps he'll add something soon.
Sorry I can't be more help but thought I'd at least echo those connectors don't seem to be assigned anything, not that I can find anyway.
95e150CW has an extensive library on the E-Series chassis---maybe PM him or perhaps he'll add something soon.
Sorry I can't be more help but thought I'd at least echo those connectors don't seem to be assigned anything, not that I can find anyway.
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I pulled it up in the Ford software. Those connectors show as being used for various circuits on a cutaway/upfittable chassis. Radio, lights, etc. When I get back to the farm this afternoon I will post details.
If you give me a specific circuit number or pin number on the connector I can pull it up.
If you give me a specific circuit number or pin number on the connector I can pull it up.
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Thanks for all the input guys.
@95e150CW: I'm actually interested in all of the pins on the connector since I don't know what any of them do. Once I know what each circuit is then I might come up with a use for it. At the moment I have need for BATTERY, AUX, RUN and START but I might come up with an idea for HIGH BEAM if it was handy. Making this up as I go.
Thanks again,
Dave
@95e150CW: I'm actually interested in all of the pins on the connector since I don't know what any of them do. Once I know what each circuit is then I might come up with a use for it. At the moment I have need for BATTERY, AUX, RUN and START but I might come up with an idea for HIGH BEAM if it was handy. Making this up as I go.
Thanks again,
Dave
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I seem to recall it was interior lights, not chassis lights. There might be headlights signal via interior/dash lights. I'll take a peek again. I doubt you will find 12v batt and IGN switched batt on those connectors. Most certainly not enough amperage for power distribution. The ford software just lets me click checkboxes and view all associated circuits for the connector. I'll post a PDF this afternoon.
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Okay, seems those are special connectors which are detailed in guide I do not have (A guide for manufacturers). Here is what my software says about them:
C302 is found in these cells:
013-003: Power Distribution
013-010: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-001: Heater
054-001: Air Conditioner/Heater
071-002: Instrument Illumination
092-001: Exterior Lamps
110-003: Power Door Locks
111-003: Remote Keyless Entry
111-004: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
C301 is found in these cells:
010-014: Grounds
013-013: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-004: Heater
054-005: Air Conditioner/Heater
089-003: Courtesy Lamps (With Full Headliner)
090-002: Turn/Stop/Hazard Lamps
092-001: Exterior Lamps
093-002: Reversing Lamps
111-002: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
C302 is found in these cells:
013-003: Power Distribution
013-010: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-001: Heater
054-001: Air Conditioner/Heater
071-002: Instrument Illumination
092-001: Exterior Lamps
110-003: Power Door Locks
111-003: Remote Keyless Entry
111-004: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
C301 is found in these cells:
010-014: Grounds
013-013: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-004: Heater
054-005: Air Conditioner/Heater
089-003: Courtesy Lamps (With Full Headliner)
090-002: Turn/Stop/Hazard Lamps
092-001: Exterior Lamps
093-002: Reversing Lamps
111-002: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
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Thje 1998 EVTM page numbers might be different. here is what i get when i select a 98 E150 for those
(what sucks is, i can just click and be on those pages, heh)
C302 1998 EVTM
013-003: Power Distribution
013-007: Power Distribution
013-010: Power Distribution
013-026: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-001: Heater
053-004: Heater
054-005: Air Conditioner/Heater
071-002: Instrument Illumination
092-001: Exterior Lamps (Marker, Park, License)
110-003: Power Door Locks
111-003: Remote Keyless Entry
111-004: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
C301 1998 EVTM
010-014: Grounds
013-007: Power Distribution
013-013: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-003: Heater
054-001: Air Conditioner/Heater
089-003: Courtesy Lamps
090-002: Turn/Stop/Hazard Lamps
092-001: Exterior Lamps (Marker, Park, License)
093-002: Backup Lamps
111-002: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
(what sucks is, i can just click and be on those pages, heh)
C302 1998 EVTM
013-003: Power Distribution
013-007: Power Distribution
013-010: Power Distribution
013-026: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-001: Heater
053-004: Heater
054-005: Air Conditioner/Heater
071-002: Instrument Illumination
092-001: Exterior Lamps (Marker, Park, License)
110-003: Power Door Locks
111-003: Remote Keyless Entry
111-004: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
C301 1998 EVTM
010-014: Grounds
013-007: Power Distribution
013-013: Power Distribution
013-028: Power Distribution
053-003: Heater
054-001: Air Conditioner/Heater
089-003: Courtesy Lamps
090-002: Turn/Stop/Hazard Lamps
092-001: Exterior Lamps (Marker, Park, License)
093-002: Backup Lamps
111-002: Remote Keyless Entry
130-002: Radio
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Here's what I got so far if I'm reading the manual right.
Connector 301
Pin#/Circuit#/page# description
1 / 9 / 90-2 left turn signal
2 / 57 / 10-14 ground
3 / 5 / 90-2 right turn signal
4 / 140 / 93-2 Switched when transmission in reverse
5 / 757 / 54-5 aux blower motor relay
6 / 754 / 53-4 rear blower switch
7 / 511 / 90-2 brake pedal switch
8 / 14 / 92-1 main light switch (on with headlights and park)
9 / 53 / 89-2 dome light
10 / 54 / 89-2 hot
11 / 751 / 53-4 aux heater blower switch (MED HI)
12 / 884 / 13-7 hot
*Could you find page numbers for circuits 9, 5 and 751?
Thanks
*Updated with 95e150CW's help.
Connector 301
Pin#/Circuit#/page# description
1 / 9 / 90-2 left turn signal
2 / 57 / 10-14 ground
3 / 5 / 90-2 right turn signal
4 / 140 / 93-2 Switched when transmission in reverse
5 / 757 / 54-5 aux blower motor relay
6 / 754 / 53-4 rear blower switch
7 / 511 / 90-2 brake pedal switch
8 / 14 / 92-1 main light switch (on with headlights and park)
9 / 53 / 89-2 dome light
10 / 54 / 89-2 hot
11 / 751 / 53-4 aux heater blower switch (MED HI)
12 / 884 / 13-7 hot
*Could you find page numbers for circuits 9, 5 and 751?
Thanks
*Updated with 95e150CW's help.