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Old 06-20-2012, 02:22 PM
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hi Guys,

I try to sort it out power steering on my 56 F100,mustang II power steering rack on,302 engine with serpentine belt,I would like to use electric pump,but waiting for your advise.the engine out of Lincoln,from about 1980.thanks for any idea,Tushy
 
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Electric power steering pump or what?
 
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:34 AM
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Electric power steering pump or what?
I'm assuming hydraulic? Tushy, on this side of the pond, a rebuilt hydraulic steering pump only runs $40 (US), so I can't even fathom going electric.
 
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:39 PM
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Maybe electric power steering pumps are more common where you are, but not here, so few have experience with them.
 
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Re: 56 steering

yes,some people use Citroen Saxo electric power steering pump.
It's not easy to find an original pump with mounting for this engine,if would be older,no problem.but I'm keep looking.but thanks very much.Tushy
 
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:51 PM
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Can't say I've ever seen a Citroen Saxo, or even know what one is. I think the last Citroen I've seen in real life was one of these goofy cars.



And I can't remember for sure when the last time a French anything was imported to the states. It must have been a Reanult back in the mid 80's, when they were partnered with AMC.
 
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:04 AM
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Can't say I've ever seen a Citroen Saxo, or even know what one is. I think the last Citroen I've seen in real life was one of these goofy cars.
A thing of beauty and a joy to behold forever!

Froggy!

Citroen ID19, early '70's model with rubber bumperettes and single headlamps. Introduced in 1955, first vehicle in the world to come with radial tires invented by Michelin who owned Citroen back then.

Has FWD, 4-on-the-tree without a clutch pedal. When you move the shift lever it also acts as the clutch. Also has air/oil hydropneumatic suspension that works in conjunction with the P/S system.

There's a lever on the drivers side kick panel that can raise it 12" high, or lower it so the rocker panels are only 2" from the ground. Comes in handy when changing a tire. The hole in the rocker panel is for the jack.

Remove a rear wheel, then drive the puppy from Bellingham WA to Key West FL without a care in the world. The suspension keeps the rear end level.

I removed a rear wheel, then drove a Citroen ID19 station wagon into a Mustang resto shop that I sold parts to, parked it in the service driveway, then walked away.

First one guy noticed it, before too long everyone else did...they crowded around wondering...what the hell?!

This wagon was the 'chase parts' car for Citroen Cars Inc., the West Coast Distributor located in Culver City CA. I borrowed it from my dad (he was the distributor) just to prank the guys at the Mustang shop.

Citroen purchased by Peugeot, hasn't been imported since the 1980's, neither (thank gawd) have Peugeots. My dad said the frogs never understood the US market, were a PITA to deal with.

btw: Electric P/S pumps can be found on a wide variety of US cars. I read something recently that Ford is gonna to use it on an upcoming F150.
 
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The only US sold car that uses an electric pump that I knew about is the BMW Mini Cooper, but it is power assisted not true power steering.
 
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The only US sold car that uses an electric pump that I knew about is the BMW Mini Cooper, but it is power assisted not true power steering.
Toyota MR2 also
 
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Originally Posted by AXracer
The only US sold car that uses an electric pump that I knew about is the BMW Mini Cooper, but it is power assisted not true power steering.
2004/08 Saturn Vue V6 has an electric P/S pump and since the engine/transaxle was sourced from Honda, I suspect some Honda V6's have an electric P/S pump. Earlier Vue's used the GM 3.4L V6, a gutless gas guzzling terd.

I think the Chevy Volt has an electric pump as do several Toyota/Scions.

Edit: Google: electric power steering pumps / There's a wide variety from myriad automakers.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
btw: Electric P/S pumps can be found on a wide variety of US cars. I read something recently that Ford is gonna to use it on an upcoming F150.

Ford is already using the electric power assisted steering (EPAS) and has been since the 2011 model year.

In fact my company hasnt been able to install plows on f150's since 2010 due to the electric assisted steering.

Here is a link to the sve bulletin.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/Q-200.pdf
 
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Originally Posted by dynamic
Ford is already using the electric power assisted steering (EPAS) and has been since the 2011 model year.

In fact my company hasnt been able to install plows on f150's since 2010 due to the electric assisted steering.

Here is a link to the sve bulletin.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/Q-200.pdf
Wow! Ford decided to give up a lot of sales in the snowbelt. Now I know why my brother switched to Dodges.
Sounds like their system would not be very adaptable to other vehicles. Let me rephrase my statement above: I don't know any electric power steering pump that can replace an engine driven pump. A proprietary system doesn't count since it's components are not adaptable.
 
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Interesting information, I am beginning to wonder about an electric steering pump. Might be a viable substitute fron the Toyota set up?
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
2004/08 Saturn Vue V6 has an electric P/S pump and since the engine/transaxle was sourced from Honda, I suspect some Honda V6's have an electric P/S pump. Earlier Vue's used the GM 3.4L V6, a gutless gas guzzling terd.

I think the Chevy Volt has an electric pump as do several Toyota/Scions.

Edit: Google: electric power steering pumps / There's a wide variety from myriad automakers.
My 2010 Chevy Equinox has electric power steering. So far, I like it.
 
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Mervy,
I highly doubt you will find an electric pump capable of pressures that will work with a recirculating ball PS box like the Toyota, Jag or Volare.
 


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