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I'm looking for a replacement carb for my 272. I have a Holley 2-barrel on it now. I would like to know how to figure out what # or model carb I have, there are several #'s on it. Also wondering would it be better to have the carb rebuilt instead of replacing. I believe it is just dirty due to sitting for so long. Any help would be appreciated
 
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The stock carb is a member of the Holley/Ford 94 family. Holley prefers to call it the 2110-EE which is the replacement #.

The ID is on the drivers side bowl, should be something like EBU, ECG, etc. if it is original Ford. The ECG was for the 272.

Rebuild kits are cheap and readily available. Its a very simple carb to work on.
 
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Shane, that's basicaly a good, simple, mostly trouble free carb. If it's original, un-molested it should have a small metal tag under one of the screws at the top of the carb that will tell the parts guy what you have and what kit you need to rebuild it. Unless it's set for a time with gas, water etc. in the float bowl and got gummed up, it probably just needs to be cleaned up, blown out, replace the acelerator pump and power valve ( don't loose the little BB under the acelerator pump ) bolt it back on and go. Complete kit is probably 20-25 bucks. To have it rebuilt probably 60-75 bucks. Good luck
 
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Thanks guys!
I think I will take it in for a rebuild, it has been some time since I have had a carb apart.
It has been sitting for 18 years. I had the engine running for a short time about three months ago, but I found the carb was not squirting anything into the manifold.
I could not find any numbers on the driver side of the bowl, No ID tags either. I Did find 1924-3 and 1929-1S Do these help?

Added some pics of the carb in my gallery
 

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What year is your engine? That's a little later carb than I'd expected to see. Like 286Merc I was thinking the 94 series. Yours has an automatic choke, that's a plus. I had one on my 55 Merc that was mechanical choke and replaced it with the automatic. I think I paid about 120 - 130.00 rebuilt. a couple a years ago. If you have trouble with it, I have both I'd get rid of. BUT you may want to think of getting a 57 or later 4bbl manifold and a small Edelbrock 4bbl carb. Their economical, simple and would make a difference in your performance. JMO

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Hey Carl,

I was told by my uncle the engine was a 1957 292. According to the #'s on the plate near the distributer its a 272. I assume he at least had the year correct.
The 4bbl setup sounds cool! I don't know much about Y's and just assumed this would be too much carburation for the 272 if indeed this is what I have?
 
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Shane, I used to have a 1959 292 that came with a 2bbl Holley. It sat for a while, and was not working either. It had the same problem you mentioned. It would not squirt gas when you pumped the pedal. I cleaned it up, changed the parts that were not good (float, needle, power valve), and as far as I know, it’s still running well.
I can’t find where I wrote the numbers that were on my carb, but I remember that the Ford number stamped on it started with B9…
Maybe this page will help you find the numbers on your carb:
http://www.carbs.net/CarbID/HolleyID.htm

Hope this helps…

Good luck!
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I guess something went wrong with the website addres...
I'll try again:

www.carbs.net/CarbID/HolleyID.htm

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Look at the letters just above the oil filter on the side of the block,they will be raised cast letters. They and the casting numbers on the heads will get you closer to knowing what you have. http//:www.ford-y-block.com/ is also a good place to get technical information
 

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The link to the Y Block website is not coming up like I am typing it?? Lets try one more time.

www.ford-y-block.com
 
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This is wierd. Hope you can figure it out. LOL
 
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Lobo, Thanks for the Holley link

Irac, Think I have the y block page in my favorites, I will look again for the numbers on the block couldnt find them the first time.
Thanks again
 
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Shane, the 272 was used in the p/u as well as the 300 series cars in 57 and still used the 3 bolt carb and matching Holley designed Lodomatic distributor.

Starting in 57, all 292/312 USA production used a 4 bolt Holley as well as the new distributor.

The following is something I posted elsewhere, it might help.
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Follow this link to all you ever need to know about the Holley 2110

http://www.angelfire.com/d20/holley/ Ignore the crap this site adds, copy just from the www

I'll try and end some confusion and misinformation on this series of carbs.

- The carb initially came out in mid 1938, designed by Chandler Grove for Ford to replace the inefficient and leak prone Strombergs. Chandler got screwed by Ford when they gave Holley the contract for '39 production. The C-G is very rare.

- The "94" was for the venturi size .094".

- Several different castings and bowl ID's over the years, here is a basic rundown:

- With no rear venturi vacuum port; used 1938-48 on Ford, Merc and Zephyr. Castings 99, 89, 59A, etc Nominal 155 cfm.

- With rear vacuum port and no base mounted spark arrestor; used on all 8BA style flatheads except Merc 1948-54 depending on vehicle and country. Still .094 venturi. Common castings are 8BA, 8RT, EAB. Nominal cfm 162.

- With rear vacuum port AND base plate mounted spark arrestor; used on Y Blocks 1954-57.
EBU, EBV were on all 1954-55 239 as well as 256 in trucks only. Have a 1" venturi and nominal 170 cfm. Usually have a 1 on rear of bowl.
ECG, the # following means nothing for internals. Used on all 272, 292 1955-56 and '57 272. All have 1 1/16" venturi and flow 185 cfm. Have 1 1/16 on rear of bowl. Some have automatic chokes, those for auto trannies have a dashpot.


All the above are FORD designations, not Holley. Holley referred to them as the 2100 and 2110 and auto store replacements for Fords will have Holley # on the bowl. There are also Bendix replacements that are Holley style but have a 97 on the side; these are often sold on EPay as true Strombergs to the unwary.

In addition there is a 2130 with 1 1/8" venturi that was used as a strictly aftermarket for performance. Very popular on VW Beetles.

As you can see the cfm ratings differ quite a lot over the life of that series which is commonly referred to as the 94.
It is for that reason that they not be selected helter skelter for multi carb setups.
Another problem that is common is the mismatching of parts during rebuild cycles; there are subtle differences that can cause problems.
The aftermarket Holley models were available well into the late '70's.

Ive been using the 94 since the late 50's from stock to all out racing. A very nice but often misunderstood carb. Too much pure crap has been printed in the past and is still believed and repeated today.

Possibly some differences in Canadian production.
 
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Carl, Since I have a four bolt carb does this verify my Y is 292?
Now I'm really confused.
 

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Carl, Since I have a four bolt carb does this verify my Y is 292?
Now I'm really confused.

So am I since you dont give out with much info. This is the 1st time you mentioned a 4 vbolt carb.

What IS the block code? Since you mentioned the code was back by the dizzy its a Dearborn casting and Id guess ECG.

Since swapping to the later dizzie and intake was very common back then ( even done at the dealer) the only way you will know what you have is to use the block ID.
If it say its a 272, end of story.
 


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