Paint choice?
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Laughing Gas
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Paint choice?
I hear alot of opinions on what manufacturer of paint to use. Some decisions are based on what "type" of vehicle you are painting ie. Restored to Original, Custom, "Rat Rod" etc.
Is one manufacturers product better than another? If so, WHY? Is it critical to use the same brand of primer and paint?
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46 Ford Tudor - Street Rod
48 Ford F1 - Darkside
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Is one manufacturers product better than another? If so, WHY? Is it critical to use the same brand of primer and paint?
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46 Ford Tudor - Street Rod
48 Ford F1 - Darkside
"Happiness - 3 pedals and a 5 speed"
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Wow, you aren't asking for much....seriously, there are so many variables when it comes to types/brands of paints that it would be impossible to answer this broad a question with any degree of accuracy. Do you have a particular application that you are interested in?
Your second question is easier...in the day, it was much more important to match primers and topcoats so that you did not run into incompatibility issues. Today most quality primers are 2K ( 2 parts ) or "epoxy" which means that they are catalyzed and once cured become pretty much imperious to any type of topcoat.
Your second question is easier...in the day, it was much more important to match primers and topcoats so that you did not run into incompatibility issues. Today most quality primers are 2K ( 2 parts ) or "epoxy" which means that they are catalyzed and once cured become pretty much imperious to any type of topcoat.
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There are many excellent companies that make automotive finishes, both foreign and domestic. All of those brands have better and lesser quality paint lines, just like car companies have both cheap and luxury cars. So it's really hard to say one may be better than another. Much of that opinion will have to do with what paint the painter is used to or comfortable using, as they will all have different spray characteristics.
If you ever were to have a problem with your finished paint job, it will be difficult to get the manufacturer to stand behind their product if you use different brands of undercoats (primers) than the top coats. One will always blame the other, no matter what the problem. Paints and primers are far better than they used to be, so it's not so much of an issue anymore. But it's still best to use one source of materials to make sure the solvents are compatible. 99% of the time, if there is a problem, it goes back to a product incompatibility or solvent issue.
If you ever were to have a problem with your finished paint job, it will be difficult to get the manufacturer to stand behind their product if you use different brands of undercoats (primers) than the top coats. One will always blame the other, no matter what the problem. Paints and primers are far better than they used to be, so it's not so much of an issue anymore. But it's still best to use one source of materials to make sure the solvents are compatible. 99% of the time, if there is a problem, it goes back to a product incompatibility or solvent issue.
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Laughing Gas
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I know I asked a loaded question but I am looking for feedback before I chose a "trigger man" . Some guys use PPG, other S & W etc. On my last project I used PPG Omni paint and primer and everything worked out fine. One shop said that all they use is S & W and that it costs more than other paints. I asked the painter if you would shoot PPG and he said no. So I am trying to get other opinions.
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46 Ford Tudor - Street Rod
48 Ford F1 - Darkside
"If you see my pickup on a trailer, call the cops, it's being stolen"
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46 Ford Tudor - Street Rod
48 Ford F1 - Darkside
"If you see my pickup on a trailer, call the cops, it's being stolen"
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Fleet Mechanic
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Mike, I'm using ppg/omni because it's easy to get in CS. The omni primers and such work just fine and are cheaper than ppg. The omni paints, at least in yellow, are alittle thin. I'll pay the extra and go with ppg for the top coat and clear. Does this mean you're ready to paint soon?
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I know I asked a loaded question but I am looking for feedback before I chose a "trigger man" . Some guys use PPG, other S & W etc. On my last project I used PPG Omni paint and primer and everything worked out fine. One shop said that all they use is S & W and that it costs more than other paints. I asked the painter if you would shoot PPG and he said no. So I am trying to get other opinions.
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46 Ford Tudor - Street Rod
48 Ford F1 - Darkside
"If you see my pickup on a trailer, call the cops, it's being stolen"
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46 Ford Tudor - Street Rod
48 Ford F1 - Darkside
"If you see my pickup on a trailer, call the cops, it's being stolen"
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Sherwin-Williams is excellent paint. It's also sold under the Martin-Senior and Acme names. I've used some of that, and PPG, Sikkens, Dupont, Herberts, and a few other names over the last 30+ years. It's all good. Like I said, and Charlie agreed, what your painter likes is going to dictate your choice of materials moreso than the name brand.
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Cargo Master
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I learned on Martin-Senor but I have switched to PPG/Omni. "My" painter likes Sherwin/Williams. It's pretty much all good especially if you stay with one brand from metal thru clear coat. I used to swear by House of Color (when money was no object) although I haven't had the opportunity to use it since the company changed ownership. JMNSHO
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Laughing Gas
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Mike, I'm using ppg/omni because it's easy to get in CS. The omni primers and such work just fine and are cheaper than ppg. The omni paints, at least in yellow, are alittle thin. I'll pay the extra and go with ppg for the top coat and clear. Does this mean you're ready to paint soon?
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Not really on topic but for guys wanting thr hot rod black there is alot of talk about, are you ready for this, JOHN DEERE BLITZ BLACK for it's durability. Check it out on the web and there is alot of guys that swear by it on the coments page. Supposed to really hold up for years, met a guy at a show that used it and it really looked good. JD uses it for their black tractor parts and holds up for tractor use, the best part is it comes in a kit of a gallon of the black, hardener/actavator,and reducer for $100.00. Not ready for paint yet but I am going to use it on a 49 -hevy I'm building for a friend, will find out soon and post results, Garry
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Not really on topic but for guys wanting thr hot rod black there is alot of talk about, are you ready for this, JOHN DEERE BLITZ BLACK for it's durability. Check it out on the web and there is alot of guys that swear by it on the coments page. Supposed to really hold up for years, met a guy at a show that used it and it really looked good. JD uses it for their black tractor parts and holds up for tractor use, the best part is it comes in a kit of a gallon of the black, hardener/actavator,and reducer for $100.00. Not ready for paint yet but I am going to use it on a 49 -hevy I'm building for a friend, will find out soon and post results, Garry
