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Old May 4, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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I'm building up a 302 for my 67 F-100. The plan is to put an EFI system off of a HO mustang. I recently got my hands on an engine, but it's out of a 1973 bronco. Will a 90 EFI system work on a 73 block?
And what is the diffrence between the 85 and earlier blocks as opposed to the 86 and newer blocks? That seems to be the change date...
Can anyone help?
 
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Old May 5, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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Not sure when they went to the roller blocks (90's), but I believe the Mustangs had them earlier than the trucks.
I also believe the '86 block is the only year that differs because it had flat top pistons, no others did. Not sure of any other changes.
Sorry I couldn't be of any more help.
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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Pre vs post 86 302 question

yes the efi system will work on any 302 other than a boss 302.

The change in 86 was to efi, and to a roller cam in the mustangs.
The roller setup will go into any 302 block, so there really is no changes for the roller cam.

However,in 82 they went to one piece rear main seal.
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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Just make sure that the cam in your 70 engine has the same firing order as the EFI.
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by BroncoGuy84
Just make sure that the cam in your 70 engine has the same firing order as the EFI.
good point, with a 5.0 H.O. efi setup you will need a either put in a 351 cam, or even better, swap in the roller cam setup from the mustang.
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Yes. The fuelie should be 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. I didn't even have to look at the notes on my arm for that one.
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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You should have.

The "normal" 302 is 15426378

HO 302 is the same as the 351 order.

-James
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Yeah... I knew that. No really. I did. Maybe I just forgot. Well ok, I'll admit it... I've been working on my Windsor so much lately it's the only firing order I can see... and I mean I see it everywhere.
 
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Thank you all. The information is greatly helpfull.
Silly question though. If the cam has the wrong firing order, wont the crank as well?
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by cybercoyote
Thank you all. The information is greatly helpfull.
Silly question though. If the cam has the wrong firing order, wont the crank as well?
Nope, because it just changes the order of when the power stroke is.

My BII has a 86 302, with a 351 cam in it, I all I had to do is change the order of the spark plugs.
 
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Old May 6, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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Silly question though. If the cam has the wrong firing order, wont the crank as well?
Just think of the crank as the dumbest part of the engine.....it just does what it is told.
 
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Old May 7, 2003 | 06:08 AM
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You cannot just "swap" a roller cam and lifters into a pre roller block. The lifter bores on the roller block are taller to accomodate the taller lifters. To use a roller cam in a non-roller block you can either use a reduced base circle cam and the factory roller lifter setup or a factory roller cam with special link-bar roller lifters ( I think Crane makes these) You can use the EFI setup with your 73 motor if you get the setup from a non-HO motor such as a Crown-Vic or pickup or T-Bird. The roller cams were first installled in Stangs and Lincolns in 1985
 
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Old May 7, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Allright. Would I be able to use the mustang setup I have (Upper and lower intake, injectors, rail, harness and sensors) but ecxhange the computer for one from a t-bird or crown vic?
 
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Old May 7, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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As far as I know the Stang and the Crown Vic/T-bird setup are the same except for the computer. I had one off of an 88 Crown Vic and it was virtually identical to the Stang upper/lower except for the upper was reversed in relation to the Stangs. So yes, I think all you'll need is to get a Crown Vic/T-Bird computer. Then after you get it running, you'll have to make sure the air/fuel ratio is Ok to prevent a too rich/ lean conditon.
 
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