I wish florida allowed open carry

 

There are many different sizes and styles of knifes available. If someone does try and grab your gun, what are you going to do? If you had a sewing needle handy, you could poke them in the hand that was reaching for the pistol and instinctively they would yell ouch and pull back. A small fixed blade knife could serve the same purpose. More to poke someone and create distance than to stab someone.

That or maybe they're just all hitting on you. Have you ever thought about just responding, "I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours?" I imagine comments like that and all the deputies would hear about you soon enough and you would no longer be a stranger to all the new guys.

 

Well, after the one deputy (actually two) had trouble getting it out of the holster and I told him that I could've poked out his eyes and kicked him in the ***** by the time he got it out.... perhaps that circulated in my behalf .... if, and that's a big IF, he had the guts to admit he couldn't get it out very fast. I think I'll use the line you suggested next time though. That's a good one. But as far as their hitting on me .... I'm only about 40 years older then most of the new Deputies, so I doubt that.

I also doubt that I would be carrying around a sewing needle. LOL. But I understand what you mean. I'm thinking about getting a TDI KA-BAR knife from the GT Distributors magazine that the Deputies order a lot of their stuff from. It says that LEO's use it as a back up when someone is trying to take their weapon. Looks cool too.

 

Back in the good old days, women wore those wicked long and nasty looking.....HATPINS!

 

From what I've been told over the last few years (granted, I have no formal knife training), is that you don't want to have to stab. Preferably cutting/slicing is a much better route to go.

 

I like the reverse grip, edge-out technique when it comes to holding knives for self-defense:

Knife Grip Tactics, Techniques, Styles, and Hand-sizing the custom knife by Jay Fisher

Was taught this a long time ago by a friend who was an "anything goes when it comes to defending yourself" martial arts instructor.

What I like most about it is it's easy to conceal from view but still be prepared for almost anything. Tucking the backside of the blade against your wrist and blocking, or advancing and slashing or "ice-picking" is very effective.


Your mileage may vary.

 

Actually, this is what one of the Deputies had also mentioned. He even explained how it can do more damage than a bullet.

That was a great link. Some really nice looking knives too. I just hope I never have to practice any of these techniques. You guys are the tops.

 

the ka-bar tdi knives are amazing and very easy to conceal as well. I carry one every day

 

Look up Open Carry on YouTube. Lots of cool and insightful videos.

 

I was hoping to hear from someone that had one of these. Thanks for your input. I can't wait to order one.

I can't wait to check it out. Thanks.

 

i also carry their neck knife when working out and such when i cant carry the bigger tdi...amazon has killer deals on them

 

Talk to one of your deputy friends. GT gives a discount to LEO types. Just tell them next time they order to add your knife on their order and you'll pay them for it. If there's not a GT near you, that will save on shipping and get you their discount.

I have formal knife training, and what you're saying is mostly correct, but remember everything depends on the circumstances. If I'm just trying to get you to let go of my pistol so I can back away and draw a pistol on you, I have no problem at all poking you with a knife and then dropping it to grab a better weapon.

For Michelle's worry about not being able to stab someone, my example was something she can likely picture herself doing much easier than stabbing someone.

If you're going to be in a fight with a knife, then I agree this is the best method. Also keep in mind that the butt of the knife will protrude from your "fist" and can be used as a blunt edge weapon since if you've decided to get in a knife fight you're either making bad decisions or are likely up against more than one opponent.

And unless you've had training, please don't rely on your knife for blocking or "ice-picking". For blocking you'll probably miss and then put yourself out of position for a counter strike. For ice picking, there's a very good chance the knife will stick, but not be fatal and when they pull away you're left empty handed.

Your martial arts friend is correct Art. The only rule in hand to hand combat is, if you're not winning, change the rules.

 

I am not a big fan of taking my firearm out of the holster in public for someone to look at it. If they are taking it out of my holster I better be under arrest.

Only one time have I had one say anything about it, that was a traffic stop, handed him my permit with my DL he asked where it was. I told him and he suggested I take it out of the holster were he could see it. I suggested that it was safer and better for everyone if it stayed secured right where it was, and that under Iowa law I was not required to even tell him I was carrying, that I only did it out of courtesy. After approx 3 seconds he responded with "your right on both accounts it is better secured in the holster" 3 minutes later he had ran my Lic, handed it back told me to slow down and have a nice night.

 

The right to stop and ask is always there. Your right to refuse may or may not be. This is a state thing and in some cases a local thing. In my state, generally LEO's can't demand, but they can certainly ask. There is also no requirement to tell them you have one if you have a CHP and it is concealed. There are exceptions.............always is and it behoves one to know what is going on in the area you are in. One contentious example that is of current controversy is carry, open or concealed, on a state university system campus. In Oregon City and Portland as well as a couple of other areas in the Portland Metro area, you can be arrested for carrying, even in your car, unless you have a permit, are going hunting or fishing or to a sanctioned shooting event.

As to the knife, lots of LEO's carry one, although the reasons vary. Self defense is on one. I carried a second "backup" pistol in addition to a knife. I also used a Rogers SSIII holster, at the time considered the safest holster to wear. So much so, that I had to design a special "draw" your weapon test that every officer had to pass before they were allowed to use it.

As to the bad guy getting your gun. On average, probably have the same problem the deputy had. The excon, probably get it out faster than you could. Cons like to spend their days in the "yard" practicing disarming LEO's. We have hours and hours of video of these practice sessions that we show recruits at the academy. It is absolutely amazing at how proficient they can get.

Before I retired, we had an officer that was ambushed by 3 males. After a heck of a fight they did get his gun. At the last moment, he hit the magazine release and was able to throw the mag into the bushes. His pistol had a magazine safety so once the mag was out of the weapon it could not be fired. They were still pulling the trigger, trying to get the gun to go off, when backup arrived and they decided to try and unass the area. The officer spent a week in the hospital and 2 months on light duty stuck at a desk.

 

My oh my... where do I begin. So much good advice again I wouldn't know where to start commenting and complimenting... so I'll just babble a bit.

I too don't like taking my weapon out of the holster in public, or in my house for that matter. I showed a guest of mine a 22 I had borrowed before I got my Glock and long story short, he was going to prove that the safety was on by shooting it. I told him that the safety wasn't on and asked him not to shoot it in the house. So he took it outside and you should have seen his eyes when the gun went off. I have never let anyone touch my weapon since then except LEO'S. Actually, I want them to check it out. I even had one clean it for me at times.... till they moved him to another area. I was just wondering if they have a right to just stop check it out ... especially if I happened to not want them to. I thought that someone might know off hand but I guess it comes down to the rules of each state.

This knife thing, though, are their laws that prohibit you from wearing one? I know you can't have switch blades and butterflies or whatever they are called, but what about other things, like can it be worn in plain sight? Does the blade have to be a certain length? Oh and how big are the ka-bar tdi knives? They looked like they'd be small. And good idea about asking one of the Deputies to order me one when they order something. I should've come here before ordering my holster. LOL.