2sp. rearend weight
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2sp. rearend weight
Well, after how many years now? 
I've decided to just go and dismantle my uncle's F6 to get it home. I figure I can get the bulk of it in 3 trips (300 miles one way) minus the frame w/cab itself.
1st trip would be to haul my '68 9" (my F1's donor) up there, cut the u-bolts, remove the 2sp. rear, and CGU strap the 9" into place for future rolling. This will narrow the rear to fit most normal trailers without wrestling with the budd lugs. But this means putting the 2sp. rear into the back of my Ranger for hauling it home. With the 4 wheels/tires attached, how much do you think it weighs?
2nd trip would be to haul the front clip home and any other small tidbits.
3rd trip would be to haul the engine and tranny, and cherry picker.
Trips 2 and 3 can be averted if I find someone with a decent car trailer, though.
I've decided to just go and dismantle my uncle's F6 to get it home. I figure I can get the bulk of it in 3 trips (300 miles one way) minus the frame w/cab itself.1st trip would be to haul my '68 9" (my F1's donor) up there, cut the u-bolts, remove the 2sp. rear, and CGU strap the 9" into place for future rolling. This will narrow the rear to fit most normal trailers without wrestling with the budd lugs. But this means putting the 2sp. rear into the back of my Ranger for hauling it home. With the 4 wheels/tires attached, how much do you think it weighs?
2nd trip would be to haul the front clip home and any other small tidbits.
3rd trip would be to haul the engine and tranny, and cherry picker.
Trips 2 and 3 can be averted if I find someone with a decent car trailer, though.
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But this means putting the 2sp. rear into the back of my Ranger for hauling it home. With the 4 wheels/tires attached, how much do you think it weighs?
I have all that but I don't have a way to weigh them..
Each wheel and tire will be around 80lbs.
I would say the axle with brakes and hubs will be around 150-200lbs. (maybe closer to 200lbs)
SO, somewhere around 400lbs?
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A lot heavier than you might think....
If the wheels & tires are 80# each, x4 is 320# right there......
I'm gonna guess the complete rear is closer to 300#.....
Havi, do you have a torch to cut the U bolts or at least heat up the nuts to get them off?
If the wheels & tires are 80# each, x4 is 320# right there......
I'm gonna guess the complete rear is closer to 300#.....
Havi, do you have a torch to cut the U bolts or at least heat up the nuts to get them off?
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I'll chime in and say x2 on the 1000 pound deal. I rolled the rear out of one of my F6 trucks and later dismantled it. Lifting the 2 speed axle assembly with 4 wheels and tires attached put a serious strain on my cherry picker bigger than lifting a 390 and C6 trans combo. I now have a leaky seal on my ram. I couldn't lift the center section out of the housing by hand. Had to use the picker for that, too. That alone has to be in the neighborhood of 200 pounds.
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I knew it was heavy, that's why I asked. ( jacking up my last F6 made my jack grunt, lol) This truck has been sitting in the woods for 50 years or more, that's 50 MN winters. I don't think the lugs will be easy. I'd hate to travel 300 miles just to snap my breaker bar. That's why I thought torching the U-bolts would be easier. Just trailering the whole truck would be preferred. Either way, the rear will probably have to be hauled on a trailer.
I guesstimated 500 lbs, which my Ranger can handle, but i wouldn't risk any more than that. I figure rear, engine, tranny, and front clip in one haul on the car trailer, and chassis and cab in a second haul. It's easier to borrow a car trailer, than find a trailer big enough to haul the whole thing in one shot.
I guesstimated 500 lbs, which my Ranger can handle, but i wouldn't risk any more than that. I figure rear, engine, tranny, and front clip in one haul on the car trailer, and chassis and cab in a second haul. It's easier to borrow a car trailer, than find a trailer big enough to haul the whole thing in one shot.
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I'll chime in and say x2 on the 1000 pound deal. I rolled the rear out of one of my F6 trucks and later dismantled it. Lifting the 2 speed axle assembly with 4 wheels and tires attached put a serious strain on my cherry picker bigger than lifting a 390 and C6 trans combo. I now have a leaky seal on my ram. I couldn't lift the center section out of the housing by hand. Had to use the picker for that, too. That alone has to be in the neighborhood of 200 pounds.
You guys are killing me!!
Ok, since my original out "on a limb" guestimate BROKE the limb.......
I took my trusty bathroom scale out there and did a little weighing.......
Wheels and tires (8.25-20) 210 lbs each
Rear (2sp) axle with the "pumpkin" and axle shafts installed, 210lbs each side
(you just can't put a 400lb axle on a 300lb bathroom scale!!!) ................. so you weigh one side and support the other side in exactly the same "place" and multiply by 2!!
so lessee.....210 x 4 (tires) = 840lbs!
axle.....210 x 2 = 420lbs.
I didn't have brake drums, backing plates, shoes, etc to weigh but I would say at LEAST 100lbs per side to be conservative.
200lbs.
Total? around 1500lbs.
NOT counting the springs!! Those are probably another 100-150 per side.
So total 1800lbs give or take!!!
If it's a single speed axle......take off 100-150lbs......
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And some guys get all snippy and offended when you tell them they can't put one of those under their 3/4 ton pickup....
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Yeah.......that would be a bit much for a 3/4t pickemup toy....
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I I thought they were around 100lbs or less (until I went out and tried to muscle one around!!)
It was hard enough to just roll one up onto the scale!!
It was hard enough to just roll one up onto the scale!!
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1500 pounds wouldn't surprise me a bit for a complete assembly with wheels and tires. (that would 'splain the blown picker seal) After I got my axle apart, I cut the bare housing into 3 pieces so it would be manageable. I used up 2 sawzall blades cutting the tubes off the middle part, and the 3 pieces were heavier than I thought they'd be. The bare housing alone has to be well in excess of 200 pounds. I still haven't been able to separate the dual wheels from the hubs and drums. And wrestling with those, I believe they could be 500 pounds each.
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1500 pounds wouldn't surprise me a bit for a complete assembly with wheels and tires. (that would 'splain the blown picker seal) After I got my axle apart, I cut the bare housing into 3 pieces so it would be manageable. I used up 2 sawzall blades cutting the tubes off the middle part, and the 3 pieces were heavier than I thought they'd be. The bare housing alone has to be well in excess of 200 pounds. I still haven't been able to separate the dual wheels from the hubs and drums. And wrestling with those, I believe they could be 500 pounds each.
By the way, I don't want to know if the spindles were "perfect"!!!!!
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No, this is the one that we discussed previously with the questionable end. After I saw the issue and after our conversation, I decided it wasn't worth messing with and was better off to become scrap.
It took a while but I finally got the hubs off the spindles leaving the brakes and backing plates behind, but the lug nuts are on so tight I can't break them loose from the hubs. I have both sets of duals with the hub and drum assemblies still attached taking up valuable real estate inside my shop. I even borrowed a big air gun from a truck outfit and managed to only get one of the five loose from each one. Not sure what to try next.
It took a while but I finally got the hubs off the spindles leaving the brakes and backing plates behind, but the lug nuts are on so tight I can't break them loose from the hubs. I have both sets of duals with the hub and drum assemblies still attached taking up valuable real estate inside my shop. I even borrowed a big air gun from a truck outfit and managed to only get one of the five loose from each one. Not sure what to try next.
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