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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlemann14
i though white smoke was from being over advanced? or super heated unburnt fuel
white smoke is raw diesel.

You generally get it from injecting too late.
 
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Odd my truck runs much better in the winter, or if I take it up into the mountains. Could just be tuned differently, I'm not sure.
Much higher EGT's and just general lack of pep on the warmer days. Charges like a bat out of hell as soon as the weather is miserable.

Down in the city I have a hard time keeping the EGT's manageable (1000F or less) at around 75 mph, yet I can have the truck running same speed with a trailer and higher grade hills in bad weather conditions and the EGT's cap out at like 800-900F.

Also when I lived in the camp on the side of the mountain she ran the best she's ever run, and that was -10 to -30C for months.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
Reason is, dry air is less dense, humid air is very dense, and contains water, and water contains oxygen, so on top of dense air, it's got the extra oxygen from the water, giving the engine maximum air, it's like having a turbo at night
i only partially agree with your logic here. i fully agree that the added density of the air helps a bit, but the moisture part is where i disagree with your logic. "water contains oxygen... its got extra..." - no, the oxygen in the water isn't free for combustion, BUT this water sure is ready to turn into steam as the fuel burns, and we all know how much an old steam engine could do. its the steam that makes all the difference here
so while you're working from accurate results, the logic behind it is what i had to dispute.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
Having driven across the country, in many different elevations and climates, I find a cool, very humid night is the best for these IDI's.



In the dry summer heat of the desert of Nevada and Arizona, camper had normal power.

But in Florida, on a "cool" humid might, it had tons more power, and no black smoke at full throttle. In the dry desert, a lil over 3/4 throttle to see thick black smoke.



Reason is, dry air is less dense, humid air is very dense, and contains water, and water contains oxygen, so on top of dense air, it's got the extra oxygen from the water, giving the engine maximum air, it's like having a turbo at night




Same thing on the coast lines, I've been coast to coast in the camper, and on both coast lines, the ocean breeze gives it alot more power, and way better mpg also. It's on the coast that I hit my record mpg numbers!
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Odd my truck runs much better in the winter, or if I take it up into the mountains. Could just be tuned differently, I'm not sure.
Much higher EGT's and just general lack of pep on the warmer days. Charges like a bat out of hell as soon as the weather is miserable.

Down in the city I have a hard time keeping the EGT's manageable (1000F or less) at around 75 mph, yet I can have the truck running same speed with a trailer and higher grade hills in bad weather conditions and the EGT's cap out at like 800-900F.

Also when I lived in the camp on the side of the mountain she ran the best she's ever run, and that was -10 to -30C for months.

we are not talking about the temperature outside, we are talking about the temp of the engine.

an engine that has a block temp of 220 degrees will run like a raped ape when it is 35 degrees with 70% humidity.
the same truck will not run as well run if the block temp is only 100 degrees
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
we are not talking about the temperature outside, we are talking about the temp of the engine.
You may not have, but a few people in the thread were however.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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i know. that is why i posted that. the original poster was talking engine temp also, not outside temp.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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I just find it peculiar that some people find their trucks run better when it's warmer, when my runs like utter stink on the hot summer days, yet great all winter.

Although I haven't had a nice warm day to test out my cowl induction, only ever had the intake inside the engine bay during the summer.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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an intake inside the engine bay draws heated air into the intake. heated air is less dense than cool moist air, so it will not have the power of cold moist intake air.

my truck draws intake air from outside. so i see the difference in hot verses cold engine temps.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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TJC.... they just don't get it.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
an intake inside the engine bay draws heated air into the intake. heated air is less dense than cool moist air, so it will not have the power of cold moist intake air.

my truck draws intake air from outside. so i see the difference in hot verses cold engine temps.
So you again chose to reiterate that air in the bay is bad, air out of it is good...
Which is why I installed a cowl induction, as I pointed out.
I was stating how I find it peculiar that you take similar trucks and people find they have more power in differing conditions instead of identicle ones.
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TJC.... they just don't get it.
I find it fascinating that when given the opportunity to be helpful and friendly, or act like a ****, you choose the latter repeatedly.
Now remember if you don't have anything nice to say...
 

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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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One the dyno, when I let my truck get hot, and I ran it hard, it made 5-10hp more, consistantly, than a dyno run where I just fired the truck up an went.

As far as the others go, the conversation wasnt about how your truck run when its hot vs. cold out, it was about engine temp... So how bout we do it this way... If you dont have anything smart to say...
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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There were two or three posts talking about the external temperatures before I posted.
I'm sorry you would rather sit there and feel superior by talking down instead of taking the time to read, it makes you look like a moron. If that was however what you were going for, congrats you accomplished it.

Sadly you failed your own criteria.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SnuffthePunkz
I find it fascinating that when given the opportunity to be helpful and friendly, or act like a ****, you choose the latter repeatedly.
Now remember if you don't have anything nice to say...
I find it fascinating that when I give the correct answers to questions and problems, people like you consistently stick in your two cents about something completely off topic.

Take this thread for instance....

Originally Posted by RacinNdrummin
So how bout we do it this way... If you dont have anything smart to say...
amen.
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SnuffthePunkz
There were two or three posts talking about the external temperatures before I posted.
I'm sorry you would rather sit there and feel superior by talking down instead of taking the time to read, it makes you look like a moron. If that was however what you were going for, congrats you accomplished it.

Sadly you failed your own criteria.
Listen, Im not going to sit here and get in a pissing match over such a rediculous thing, but you obviously have an axe to grind. Mike had a specific point of this thread, and regardless if there was three posts before yours that were off topic, yours was off topic too. You got called out on it, and now your fighting back. Give up already, you wont win this fight, trust me.

And as far as saying something smart?? The smartest thing in the whole thread aside from what NMB2 has said, was me chiming in with my direct experience on the thread topic.

Im not trying to make enemies here, but one smartass comment deserves a smartass response...
 
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Old May 3, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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I'm sorry that we haven't transcribed every word that has graced us off your lips into a IDI bible, and worship you as the second coming of our lord and savior.

Maybe if you took the time to treat the people who have the questions or issues better, and explained them without coming off as a superior ****** people wouldn't ignore you.

I don't dislike you, so don't take it as an attack at you personally you know what your talking about, and your good with your truck, but if you just wiggled the stick up your *** out a bit you wouldn't hate everyone not on your level. In a perfect world we would all have $10k ***** extensions like you that we all built by hand, but we don't.

Talk to people more like human beings as apposed to troublesome underlings and people wouldn't dislike you so much.

Who gives a **** if every post is on topic? It isn't the end of the world.

Dear mod who will likely look over this, I'm done. Infract me of you need to. Not the first time, won't be the last.
 
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