Ford F-250
I need some help. I have a few questions about this new project i got.
First: what year is it? a 66 or 65? How do you tell the difference? (besides the vin)
Second: This is a 352, correct?
Third: are there anythings I should look out for on this truck/ any special things? is there anything rare on these that i should look for? I havent seen many stepsides online.

I found this on a farm and was surprised that the majority of the rust is just surface rust.
the motor turns by hand and I could hear the compression.
I am a youngin (19) and I plan on working on this in class. I am going to school for auto body. I would like to keep it stock looking. I appreciate any help and input! Thanks!

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Vin should tell the story it does have a 66 grille however. That might not mean alot. It may or may not have a 352 no way to look at the outside of the block an know for sure what motor you have. 352,390,360 all look like the same block on the outside. Only way to know for sure is measure the bore and stroke. The bore is the circumference of the cylinder hole. The stroke is the distance the piston moves up and down in the cylinder. I see a holley carb sitting on top of the motor so the carb Ford generally used has been changed out so no way of knowing what else may have been changed up to and including a motor. Looks like a nice solid truck from your flkr pix. As far as rare if the wheels I see int the pics are 16 eight lug innie wheels then yes those are rare but best if they are non snap ring wheels. Innie means the nubs for the hub caps are towards the inside of the wheel opening where the lugs are. From what I can see from one pic they are if all 4 are great.It also looks like it might have the nine foot box that would be rare too. Another rare item is the front fenders they are the wide opening fenders also hard to find. Good luck on your restore if it were me Id restore it to stock form with brake and motor upgrades only. Good luck with your restore and welcome to FTE.

Edit: FYI In Ford the proper nomenclature for that style box is Flareside. If you use stepside people here may think you are talking about a Chevy product.

 

Welcome to FTE

Appears to be 1966 F250 Standard Cab w/an 8' Flareside bed. There are a lotta stepsides online, but not here on FTE, cuz a stepside is a (gasp) Chevrolet.

Besides the grille, both front fender emblems are 1966: FORD above, 250 below...encompassed within the emblem. 1965 F250 fender emblems have FORD 250 above.

Both front fenders have major rust issues, notice it bulging out where the lower sections of the fenders meet the doors. Since the fenders are rusty, you can bet the farm there is much more rust elsewhere.

Rust is not only the mortal enemy of these trucks, but is very expensive to fix. How long has this truck been parked on that dirt/grassy field? .

352 2V offered as an option in 1965/67 F100/350's, but who knows after 46 years have passed by, if this is the original engine.

352: Bore 4.00" .. stroke 3.50" / 360: Bore: 4.05" .. stroke 3.50" / 390: Bore 4.05" .. stroke 3.78."

360/390 (share the same block, but it's not the same block as a 352) introduced in 1968 F100/350's, used thru 1976.

390's were also available in 1961/71 FoMoCo Passenger Cars (except Lincoln's).

 

Thanks Bill went back and changed where I said used the same block. Nice catch dont want to put misleading info out there.

 

Nice find, harder to find than the styleside version. Looks like a nice example of an unaltered '66 F 250. Original paint and wheels gives this truck the "right look". This truck has 17.5" one piece rims, which is why it has the larger cut out front fenders. Tires can still be ordered thru truck tire dealers. Check out the GVW, is it 7500lbs or less? Looks like the paint should buff out, no need for this one to be repainted.

 

Nice find,, it does have a little more rust than you think,,, and if it has been sitting in grass for awhile,,, it'll have more,, but, since you are going to body work it,, no better time than the present to learn! If you look under the hood,, pass side inner fender,, near the firewall,,, you will see the rust bustin through,, pretty good odds on the rad supports also being rusted bad,, but all in all,, not a bad lookin find!! Welcome to FTE and the crazy addicting world of old "Slicks"!!

 

Kinda interesting information here. They all share the same 352 casting number on the front of the block, so I am not sure you are really misleading anyone since they all look alike as you have said, but read on...

Yes, it looks like there is a difference if you needed a bare block. However, it's been 45 years since the 352 was discontinued, and the book shows if you went to Ford in 1968 and ordered a replacement for a unsalvagable '65-'67 352, they sold you a 4.05" (360) bore block, but listed it as a '65-'67 cylinder assembly with the 4.05" note, since it obviously would fit the bill.



What this means is: according to the Ford parts book, the 352 simply became a 360 in 1968, except if you wanted only a 352 bare block or specific 352-only parts.

Applying this further, since Ford recognized a 352 is the same as a 360, which is also shares the same block as a 390, what follows is that it is logical to recognize all of these motors as virtually the same.

In addition, it goes to also show that it also takes more than just reading a parts book to get the 'correct' part. That's why to get a good answer, you have to look at a parts question dynamically.

 

Last year the 352 was available in F100/350's and Galaxie/LTD's was 1967 as it was cancelled at the end of the 1967 model run.

Both the short block (8009) and the bare block w/pistons (6010) are 1968 service part replacements for the original 1965/67 352 blocks.

Most of these two blocks were sold to Ford authorized rebuilders at 30% below dealer net, cuz most customers would not want to pay MSRP which was at least 6 bills for the bare block w/pistons, 11 bills for the short block.

Now factor in the rest of the parts necessary to install, and the labor, don't forget to include a valve job on the heads (heads only came with 6012 long blocks or could be bought by themselves).

The dealerships C/P R/O could be over 2 grand to install the new short block, add a coupla 100 more for the new bare block w/pistons.

Meanwhile, dealers customers could buy a 352 rebuilt long block from an authorized rebuilder for around 9 bills, add 1 bill for labor.

Back then, the warranty for new replacement parts was 90 days. The authozed rebuilders warranty for engines was set by FoMoCo: One year/12,000 miles, whichever occurred first.

Authorized rebuilder for 11 western states: GPD (Genuine Parts Distributors-Tumador Engine) located (then) in Commerce CA, today in the City of Industry CA

AFAIK, in TX & OK, authorized rebuilder: Fred Jones (Ford) located in Tulsa OK