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Old 03-27-2012, 12:37 PM
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ok, i just read that whole article and it was very helpful, now i have one question, vacuum advance is supposed to use manifold vacuum? i did a lot of asking around and not once did someone say manifold vacuum, i was under the impression vacuum advance was for when you want to accel fast and the centrifical advance wasnt enough. so either was a vacuum advance wasnt my problem because i experience this issue at Close to WOT or WOT, anything below half throttle is fine
Sounds like the carb not adjusted right or a combo of timing and carb.
 
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Originally Posted by darkpurp1e
ok, i just read that whole article and it was very helpful, now i have one question, vacuum advance is supposed to use manifold vacuum? i did a lot of asking around and not once did someone say manifold vacuum, i was under the impression vacuum advance was for when you want to accel fast and the centrifical advance wasnt enough. so either was a vacuum advance wasnt my problem because i experience this issue at Close to WOT or WOT, anything below half throttle is fine
Normally vacuum advance is hooked to ported vacuum. A hesitation at WOT could be a problem with the secondaries. Vacuum drops when throttle is wide open.
 
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Vacuum Advance: Most Ford distributors include a vacuum advance mechanism. This consists of a diaphragm vacuum canister, an arm from the canister to the breaker plate, and a hose connected to an engine vacuum source. The purpose of this mechanism is to provide spark advance when the engine is not spinning fast enough to create the centrifugal advance talked about earlier. In other words this is an engine-load dependent advance. This would be a typical situation when climbing a steep hill, or driving at low rpms, light throttle, conditions. In these conditions there is high engine vacuum, so the vacuum signal applied to the diaphragm in the canister, via the hose, will cause a 'pull' effect on the arm, which moves the breaker plate and results in a timing advance. During full throttle conditions there is very little engine vacuum, and thus the vacuum advance does not contribute to total advance.
If this is true why would it be potted vacuum instead of manifold? Doesn't potted increase as you open throttle? Manifold is what it sounds like it would be describing
 
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First it's ported not potted. Then; Manifold vacuum has vacuum at idle.... Ported vacuum has NO vacuum at idle. That's what our distributor system is made for. Use ported vacuum.
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was the new dizzy a factory replacement or like a msd or mallory? that could something to do with it.
 
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factory, and sorry potted was auto correct on my phone, but this article basically just explains how youll get better fuel economy with it hooked up to manifold, and since hiigh rpm is all centrifical anyways what good would ported advance be? i know this isnt my problem anymore but now i just want answers lol
 
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:08 AM
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So if you want your base timing to be off by 20* or so at idle by all means use manifold vacuum.

Get a hand held vacuum pump, hook it up to your dist, look at the timing marks and pump the vacuum needle up to 15-17lbs.

Our system is designed to not have vacuum at idle.
 
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:21 AM
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ok does your dist have any way to advance the timing? ie mechanical advance?
oldstyle is right but all else aside if your dist cant advance the timing then your engine isn't going to want to run as it should. The problem could very well NOT be your advance but as of right now thats the only thing that we know for sure. I would recommend hooking it back up the right way and go from there.

Ya know just kind of run through the list of demons and knock them off one by one. Just trying to clear the air.
 
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but why go ported? what is the advantage
 
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if you use manifold then its advanced at idle. when you get on it the vacuum falls aka you lose advance. Ported has no vacuum at idle and is there through the rpm range aka where your problem seems to lie.
 
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ive had the engine running perfect with the distributor not hooked in to vacuum adv. and exactly the same initial timing(12* adv),i just have a hard time seeing why would it all of a sudden change to **** and run like crap?
 
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if thats the case then check or replace your fuel filters. What kind of carb you running? Double check the accel pump linkage is adjusted correctly.
 
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accel pump is fine the only thing it could be on the carb is the secondaries could be plugged up, i have one in line filter that i changed after i got this problem so im gonna try to pull the carb off and see if the secondaries are plugged at all, if not its back to square 1
 
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good idea cuz they open up under a load
 
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sure enough one of the secondaries was plugged up, runs like a top again, i guess you can never assume its not the carburetor lol. anyways tonight im gonna try to see what it does with vacuum adv. hooked up.
 


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