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Like any product it has been updated over the years. Riffraff makes them in house out of American billet aluminum, so there isn't anything that is going to wear or change on this product. I had a set when they first came out and never had any issues. Unless you have an installation issue the oring won't cause any issues in the future. I have installed a couple sets for customers in the last few years and Riffraff has improved on the hardware, and also stepped up their game on the machining, now providing stainless cap screws. Also, the oring was even easier to install in the groove so that must have been improved on as well. If you really want to know what people think I would just read the reviews, given there are almost 100 of them from over the last decade.
Yeah well you did! Thats what i was looking for. I dont really know where else to ask. Not like people come out and talk about how good a product is in 10 years. I mean why do i want to replace an oring in an already pain in the *** place to get to in 5 or so years.?
I hear ya. It's not often things get talked about after long term use.
In my case, The o-ring was a pain to keep in place and I think that The o-ring may have came out of the groove a tiny bit during installation. After I finally blew up my PMR block, During disassembly I noticed one of the o-rings damaged. I don't think it blew out because i can only produce a max of 40-42 psi of boost at my elevation. So, I'm inclined to think it happened during installation.
we'll see how it goes once I finally get them installed if I ever get to working on my 76 F350 crewcab/ 7.3 build. I have new o-rings and bolts thay i bought back in 2018. Worst case, I can fill the groove and just go with the RTV/ sealant route
Originally Posted by duck fan
If you really want to know what people think I would just read the reviews, given there are almost 100 of them from over the last decade.
while reviews can sort of be helpful, they are typically done just after installation. Not typically after many years of use.
There seem to be several options now but the RR seem to be one of the best ones i've seen. I'm just not sure what I think of the oring seal, especially on one of the first gens. I'm sure they have them dialed in now. I bought them because I am not a fan of RTV. a reusable seal is the route I like anymore
Nice, I can definitely see that the RR plenums have undergone some serious design changes. Not sure what i think about those in comparison.
I do like those gaskets though.
I'll have to post the one plenum I have hear at the house for comparison. They are a bit dirty. My SN says 02-015. So does that mean i have #15 of second gen? IIRC, Clay made these not long after the initial batch. Also, I guess the anodizing isn't holding up. Where the boots go, it's still black, the rest is almost a plum now
and it looks like mine were machined rather than water jetted as seen in the above linked video
Nice, I can definitely see that the RR plenums have undergone some serious design changes. Not sure what i think about those in comparison.
I do like those gaskets though.
I'll have to post the one plenum I have hear at the house for comparison. They are a bit dirty. My SN says 02-015. So does that mean i have #15 of second gen? IIRC, Clay made these not long after the initial batch. Also, I guess the anodizing isn't holding up. Where the boots go, it's still black, the rest is almost a plum now
and it looks like mine were machined rather than water jetted as seen in the above linked video
Anodizing is affected by cleaning agents, I accidentally hurt the anodizing on an oil fill cap from Sinister using purple power cleaning degreaser. It made it a much light color.
The video above is CNC, not water jet. What you are seeing is the coolant that CNC machining uses to keep the tooling lubricated and cool.
The video above is CNC, not water jet. What you are seeing is the coolant that CNC machining uses to keep the tooling lubricated and cool.
Early in the video, a person can see the tool carousel index from tool pot 100 to tool pot 1. And a bit further in you can make out "P2", which I'd assume is pallet #2....on a CNC Horizontal machining center. Cool stuff.