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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, Pontiac never used 6.5L emblems on any GTO. The first Pontiac I remember using metric engine size was the 6.6L Firebirds and it was in the late 70's or early 80's. Ford never used metric engine size designations in the late 60's or early 70's on any Cougar or Mustang. The only metric V-8 I ever recall in that era were the old 7 Litre Galaxies in 1966 and later which was actually a 428 c.i. engine. But more to the point, it really doesn't matter if it's metric or SAE. Distance is distance, area is area, and volume is volume. You just have to be familiar with both systems and know the conversion factors. And just to be ornery, what would you refer to a 5.0L engine bored .030" oversize, a 5.05L? Or would it be more precise and easier to refer to that engine as a 306 c.i. engine?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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I cannot believe some of the posts in this thread, especially the "I'm proud to be and American so I will not change over to metric (all "quotes" paraphrased), "It was the english system that put us on the moon, "the metric system killed more astronauts than the English system," etc. Yeesh! Build a bridge and get over it!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg B
To the best of my knowledge, Pontiac never used 6.5L emblems on any GTO. The first Pontiac I remember using metric engine size was the 6.6L Firebirds and it was in the late 70's or early 80's. Ford never used metric engine size designations in the late 60's or early 70's on any Cougar or Mustang. The only metric V-8 I ever recall in that era were the old 7 Litre Galaxies in 1966 and later which was actually a 428 c.i. engine. But more to the point, it really doesn't matter if it's metric or SAE. Distance is distance, area is area, and volume is volume. You just have to be familiar with both systems and know the conversion factors. And just to be ornery, what would you refer to a 5.0L engine bored .030" oversize, a 5.05L? Or would it be more precise and easier to refer to that engine as a 306 c.i. engine?
Sorry, I saw them in the day, and the links have repro'd emblems for people restoring the cars. I have specific recollections on this--a high school buddy's GTO and a 390 Cougar I test drove in Everett Washington in August of 1971.

As for the rocket scientist view of the metric system vs. the "American" system, well, the inch/pound thing is English. We fought two wars with them to free ourselves from them. The metric system is French. They were on our side in the American Revolution.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 640 CI Aluminum FORD
I wasn't really sure where to post this. I guess since it kind of pertains to modern terminology I'll post here, and if the moderators deem it to be moved elsewhere they can.

But anyway to the point. What happened to calling an engine by its Cubic Inches? For example, as kid in the 1990's I remember always knowing that Ford's had a 300, 302, 351, and 460 engine offerings, Converted to how we would call them today it would be a 4.9L, 5.0L, 5.8L, and 7.5L.

It seems to have started around the late 1990's. Ford put the 4.6L and 5.4L in the F-150 back then and instead of calling those engines 281 and 330 they were simply 4.6L and 5.4L.

I know this might seem silly, but I was thinking about it today. My 2011 F-150 has the new 5.0L V8, but when I refer to it as a 302 I feel a little hint of nostalgia run threw me.
Folks, here's the original post. Lets stay on track please.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
Folks, here's the original post. Lets stay on track please.
I had no idea what I was creating in making this thread. I certianly had no inent of starting any kind of Imperial vs Metric war.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 640 CI Aluminum FORD
I had no idea what I was creating in making this thread. I certianly had no inent of starting any kind of Imperial vs Metric war.
You didn't do anything wrong, in fact no one did. I just want to keep it friendly and on track.

Thank you all for doing that.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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I like the fact that Standard is more precise. Take temperature for example. The Freezing to boiling in metric goes from 0-100. In Imperial it goes from 32-212 ( or a 180 degree scale).

If the the temperature changes 0-5 degrees in Celsius, it changes from 32 to 41 in Fahrenheit. In the summer the difference between a 100 day and a 109 day is huge with Fahrenheit, but in Celsius we would say 38-43. Again I just like the more precise measurements better.

PS I know you could convert 109 to 42.77778 but....
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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You do know about decimals, centesimals, millesimals, right? like those 10 or 100 or 1000 and so on division between 0 - 1, 1 - 2, etc... It isn't more exact, it just has a smaller scale and the decimals in the metric system take care of that.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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The new 5.0 is a 305 not a 302 by the way.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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All in all....Saying your car has a motor in Litres as opposed to cubes sounds ricerish..Just a good way of some young ones trying to make their Honda's sound bad...lol I would rather brag about my car being a 464 Cubic motor than say a 1.8L (or 86 CID) anyday...lol
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWhiteBeast
The new 5.0 is a 305 not a 302 by the way.
You sure? 4.958L = 302.555 cu in.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Manufacturers have changed from US to Metric calibrations. It's not to confuse, it's to get an education over. Metric measurements are better. ????? Cubic Inches bring back the memory of the old smell of unburnt gas on 11th street in july. LOL
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa Tiger
Cubic Inches bring back the memory of the old smell of unburnt gas on 11th street in july. LOL
And is that bad?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
The '79 Trans Am's had a 6.6L engine which was basically a 400 block. My '80 T/A had a 4.9L. My '79 Mustang had a 2.8L. Certain models had made the crossover in the late 70's.
The T/A 6.6 was the Olds 403.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa Tiger
Manufacturers have changed from US to Metric calibrations. It's not to confuse, it's to get an education over. Metric measurements are better. ????? Cubic Inches bring back the memory of the old smell of unburnt gas on 11th street in july. LOL
How can one measurement be better? They are both valid units of measurement.
 
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