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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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another frame width question..

sorry to ask a repeated question but im having trouble finding my answer. its short and sweet.

I bought a 1976 ford motorhome with the van front for 250 bucks.. i tore it down to cab/chassis thinking i wanted to get some sheet metal and a bed and make it a usable tow vehicle.. but now i dont. All i really want from this is the rear end.

That said. I am looking at a 1979 F250 4x4. I would like to swap the rear end out of the motor home to the truck. Yes i know gears are different and thats ok, i wont me 4x4n until i have matched gears and maybe a little 4" lift. even then it will only see a trail to take my muddin rig to the spot. it will be a pavement princess.

Are the springs the same width apart from the motorhome and the f250? i think if they are not ill only have to relocate the spring perches.

thanks for any information. Im very new to fords other then my 03 cobra but thats already built. And ive searched but i have adhd and tend to get lost in my research.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Don't know about your particular application, but I got a Dodge Winnebago motorhome and the rear axle was really wide. Everything about it was funky. You would probably be better off to get a junkyard axle actually made for the 250.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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if the truck started out as a cab/chassis, it likely has a narrower frame than a regular pickup.

IIRC, a regular pickup is about 37" out to out
cab/chassis is about 34" out to out

someone correct me if i'm wrong.

im assuming that an E series is the same as an F series ... and that may not be right.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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thanks all.. im gonna ask my neighbor for my tape measure back and go measure it. ill post what i figure out.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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frame is 41.5ish" outside to outside (its a bare frame, easy day) leafs are 3" wide and just bc i was measuring with the stock tires are 89.5" wide outside to outside

if that helps i dont have an f250 to go measure, id really appreciate the feedback. also, out of any older fords, what vehicles came with a 42" wide frame? just trying to get an idea of my bolt on options, if not i have a welder in the garage and i dont mind movin perches

oh and i looked at the tag, it has 4.10 gears. for some reason i assumed it would have a higher gear ratio for the highway.. hmm
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 03:58 AM
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That sounds very similar to the Dodge I got. If I remember correctly, the axle was about 8" wider than a truck axle.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Downey
I bought a 1976 ford motorhome with the Econoline front for 250 bucks. I tore it down to cab/chassis thinking i wanted to get some sheet metal and a bed and make it a usable tow vehicle.. but now i dont.

All i really want from this is the rear end.
It's either a Dana 60 or Dana 70.

That said. I am looking at a 1979 F250 4x4. I would like to swap the rear end out of the motor home to the truck. Yes i know gears are different and thats ok, i wont me 4x4 until i have matched gears and maybe a little 4" lift. even then it will only see a trail to take my muddin rig to the spot. it will be a pavement princess.
The only genuine Ford Motor Homes were the Class A M450/500 series (1975/77). These were assembled at the KY truck plant on the E350 rolling chassis. You wouldn't know it's an Econoline by looking at it.

Since it has an Econoline front end, what you bought is a Class C Motor Home that used the Econoline E250/350 "Cut-Away" body.

These began as cargo vans, Ford then cut the body off behind the front seats. Cut-Away's were sold to motor home manufacturers, U-Haul and to outside body makers, who installed ambulance, box van, airport shuttle and etc bodies.

Bottom Line: You have an Econoline, not an F Series truck. Depending on the length of the Motor Home body, the frame may have been extended. If it has DRW, it's an E350 with a Dana 70.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 10:28 AM
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thank you for that information. ^

so this is what i kinda changed my mind into doing.



except i have to build the sleeper area and it will be a standard roof unlike that picture.

The van runs great, drives great, and i have 3 other projects going also. this isnt going to become a daily driver and its only purpose will be to take either my race car to the track or pull 2 trucks out to go wheelin. I will also get one of those low top pop up campers for the bed. that way driving around town is like just drivin a dually, and not like a motorhome.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Downey
thank you for that information. ^

so this is what i kinda changed my mind into doing.



except i have to build the sleeper area and it will be a standard roof unlike that picture.

The van runs great, drives great, and i have 3 other projects going also. this isnt going to become a daily driver and its only purpose will be to take either my race car to the track or pull 2 trucks out to go wheelin. I will also get one of those low top pop up campers for the bed. that way driving around town is like just drivin a dually, and not like a motorhome.

i think you better build one.

sounds like a regular bed would match your frame pretty well.

i was thinking that the 37" was out-to-out, but it could have been center-center, either way, that's pretty close.

yep ... you should build one
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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thanks for the push in that direction, i was expecting worse feedback lol.

in the end i have a running driving van for 250 bucks. im going to build it as cheap as i can (built correctly tho) and just have a trailer puller.
 
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33 1/2" between the inner rear frame rails behind the cab: 1973/77 F250 4WD (High Boys) / 1973/79 F350 Regular Cabs on the 140" wheelbase.

37 1/2" between the inner frame rails behind the cab: ALL 1973/79 F100/350's except as noted above.

What vehicle has 42" frame rails, I have no idea...the question, AFAIK...has never been broached before. The above is a FAQ. I've typed the same jazz over 100 times here on FTE.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
33 1/2" between the inner rear frame rails behind the cab: 1973/77 F250 4WD (High Boys) / 1973/79 F350 Regular Cabs on the 140" wheelbase.

37 1/2" between the inner frame rails behind the cab: ALL 1973/79 F100/350's except as noted above.

What vehicle has 42" frame rails, I have no idea...the question, AFAIK...has never been broached before. The above is a FAQ. I've typed the same jazz over 100 times here on FTE.
sure wish the highlighted above was more common knowledge with hitch manufactureres ... woulda saved me $150 bucks.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
33 1/2" between the inner rear frame rails behind the cab: 1973/77 F250 4WD (High Boys) / 1973/79 F350 Regular Cabs on the 140" wheelbase.

37 1/2" between the inner frame rails behind the cab: ALL 1973/79 F100/350's except as noted above.

thanks for the response bro, i appreciate you sendin it my way!
 
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