Which is fine for most people, but in some cases it limits your payload and towing capacity, so it isn't good for everyone.

You really have to be careful the way you option these trucks nowadays. It can be very tricky. Especially if you need a certain payload and/or towing capacity (which can really limit which cab configurations, which bed lengths, which engines, and which gearing you can pick from)

 

Thanks for clarifying. I had 3.73 on the f250 and mileage was ok. The Eco has 3.55. I haven't noticed a difference. Just wasn't sure if the 6.7l and 3.15 or 3.55 was a bad combination and that's why those are the 2011 ones that are still available on lots.

 

You can only get a 6.7 (SRW 250/350) with 3.31's or 3.55's, those are your only options so that's why those are the only ones you're seeing on the lots. Without a doubt, either of those gears will pull whatever setup you have, the 6.7 is a monster!

You can get the 4.30's in the 6.2, alot seem to opt for that combo when going with the 6.2 because the mpg's between the 3.73's and 4.30's is pretty small.

 

Hey prince, the price difference between an optioned out 150 for max towing and a 250 gasser xlt can't be that much?? I would bet a monthly payment may only be $20-$50 higher at the most.....

 

Hrm...I thought that there would be $3-4K difference at best so I went and built two separate trucks on Ford.com. So I built two XLT trucks with the 4.3" productivity screen, tailgate steps, and equipped for max tow, which are 3.73s for the F150 and 4.30s for the F250. Until I added the convenience package to the F250, which is what gives you the LCD screen and lots of other stuff, the prices were within $500. After this the F150 was $41,790 and the F250 was $43,900. Both were XLT trucks!


Not the best comparison, as the F250 has some goodies that the F150 does, but it's only a $2,190 difference!

 

Ok so I did the same thing and when I was looking at the specs of the 6.2l I saw this...

385 @ 5500 rmp (6.2L V8 under 10K GVWR; 316 @ 4179 rpm (6.2L V8 over 10K GVWR)

WTF? Why would you get a less powerful engine with a higher payload?? That just doesn't make any sense. I think you guys are right...if there really isn't that much of a price difference the F250 would be the way to go.

I have to go back and look but has anyone stated what their gas milage was with the 6.2l? Towing and not towing?

 

Any word or video on the guy with 2 cameras and the lockpick?

 

Ford has to come out with a 3rd engine choice for the SuperDuty. The diesel is a beast and has way more power than anyone probably needs. I'd love to have one but can't justify the added cost. The 6.2 is just not efficient enough for a everyday driver. Until they come out with a Ecoboost V-8, I'm stuck with my V-10. The F150 has 4 engine choices. Give the Super Duty another option and I'm sold.

 

There is absolutely no difference in the engine's output, but there is a difference in how they measure it above 10,000 lbs GVWR. Therefore they can't advertise the true potential of the engine above that because the standards for rating HP are different. You'll notice the same for the GM gas V8 in their heavy duty pickups.

 

Unfortunately no sorry...I haven't heard from him in weeks.

 

Not sure this will help, but I will throw it out there for what it's worth.

Previous Truck:
2004 2500HD Silverado 6.0L Gas 4.10 rear end.
3K Slide in truck camper (see sig)
4K 19' Aluminum Deep V Boat (again see sig)
K&N CAI and throttle body spacer, Mangnaflow dual exhaust and chipped (tuned). I figure I was just over 400 ponies and a few more than that on the torque but never dyno'd (sp) it.

Not loaded: 14-15 highway 11-12 city
Loaded with camper: 10 - 10.5
Boat hitched: 10 - 10.5
Camper and boat: 8.5 maybe on a non-windy day (remember high sided vehicle) 7-8 otherwise. Actually got better mileage when the truck was new

I live in Phoenix and make at least 5-6 trips a year to Page AZ (Lake Powell...Heaven on Earth!) starting @ 1200 feet elevation and cresting 7200 feet in Flagstaff and ended up @ 4000 feet in Page.

I went to the diesel because after that 300 mile 5 hour white knuckle drive (I did add firestone airbags and compressor, class C sway bar, and Rancho 9000's and a tow beast class 5 hitch so I could stick the 2.5 foot extension on to hook the boat up to, and we all know what that does to the hitch weight ) my copilot knew the drill when we got there....while I am starting to unload the camper pour me a Jack as it was pretty stressful especially trying to keep up any kind of speed. I got really tired of not really being able to use cruise control except on flats for short periods of time and @4K RPM and more I thought the engine was going to blow...so resolved myself to not get in a rush to get there. Which is ok for the trip home but not getting there!

One particular guys fishing trip I did let one of the guys talk me into using his Ford F350 diesel crew cab (as I only had an extended cab and there were 4 in my truck) for the trip...I was amazed at how that stressful trip was sooo much easier with his truck. It was a 7.3 or 6.0 not any of the newer ones btw, and that is what convinced me that the next truck was going to be diesel. Now bear in mind I have never had a diesel before, was not interested as they were too noisy and smelly for me (sorry people who own one ) but this new one not so much...

And as you can see from my sig I went diesel and 3.55 ELD. I did contemplate over the 3.31 as most of my driving is not loaded, but figured when I did load it up it would have no issues pulling the 6% grades we have around here. So as someone already stated base you decision on the rear end at least on whether you have any significant hills and/or mountains to negotiate in your travels with the load.

I am @ 825 miles now and have not towed anything yet and am chomping at the bit to see how this one does with the load, hopefully in the next month or so I will find out

If the op or anyone is interested in what the outcome is let me know.

 

Of course we are interested...that's what these threads are all about! Thanks for the info.

Ok the next question is do you have to pay extra registration for having a F250/350?

 

I think that is state dependant, here in AZ they charge a percentage of the value which is depreciated every year. Pretty much the same for insurance.

I did see a thread that said some states charge more if you vehicle is over 10K, so I equted that to the line item for 10K GVWR in the options on the Ford build your own site.

 

He might not but I believe you will. Others in your state have posted the exorbitant annual fees they charge for heavy duty pickups. I suggest calling your local DMV foe more info.

 

Like Crazy said, call your DMV. In MN it's cheaper for the F-350. 3/4 ton is licensed as a passenger vehicle and a one ton is licensed as a truck. After a few years the difference in price is eaten up in licensing. My insurance doesn't change by going over 10K either, I just called to be sure.