Does anyone know the part number for the Drivers side engine perch that would have come with the Ford PS box (not bendix) for a 352/360/390?

(on my '66 352) I had to replace the right one because two flanges broke off and figured while I was there I might make a future PS upgrade a little easier and change out the left side perch too along with motor mounts.

Found a nifty way of propping the engine up to pull the perches btw (probably not much of an original idea.) Just slid a scissor type jack from my late model german car between the block and frame and just raised the engine up as pretty as you please. Sure beats the heck out of jacking the oil pan up from below.

 

Bill will know, but I would go to your closest salvage yard and pull one form any 73-76 with FE. Many time the engines have been pulled and the perches are left behind.




John

 

No F100/350 w/a 352 came with Ford P/S, 352 cancelled at the end of the 1967 model run. Changeover to Ford P/S occurred mid-year 1969.

Yes, I will know, but why the OP wants the part number, I don't know.

There are no Ford part numbers marked on parts after 1956, just ID or casting numbers (when applicable).

AFAIK, there are no numbers of any kind marked on engine supports (aka towers, stands, perches).

FE with Bendix P/S: 1966/68 F100/250 2WD / 1969 F100/250 2WD before serial number D96,001.

FE with Ford/Saginaw integral P/S: 1969 F100/250 2WD & F350 from serial number D96,001 / 1970/76 F100/250 2WD & F350.

The left engine support is the same for all these 1969/76 trucks...with or without P/S: D4TZ-6029-B replaced: C9TZ-6029-A

 

My reason in asking the PN is that I do a lot of my parts searches on the internet and occasionally I'll find one listed by that the actual part number either by ebay or other site and it'll save me a trip to the junk yard. (have two young-uns under 4 so my daylight free time is... well... rare to say the least.)

Thanks guys for all your help!

Jon in Atlanta

 

No FoMoCo Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

 

Bill. check it again. Not to argue but with the Saginaw gear the drivers side perch is indeed different. The older perch will hit the gear, the latter has a bent or crease in it and used different mount holes to avoid contact.



John

 

I do not wish to argue and we've discussed this before. 1965/68 F100/250 2WD, 1967/68 F350 all w/FE engines: The left support is the same with/without P/S: C5TZ-6029-A.

When Ford anticipated changing P/S gearboxes in 1969, they introduced a new left engine support at the beginning of the 1969 model run: C9TZ-6029-A.

So this same support was used with Bendix & Ford/Saginaw P/S...and without P/S in 1969, and thru 1973 in F100/250 2WD's & F350's.

There is no mention of P/S inre to this support in the '64/72 truck parts catalog, nor is there one for the following in the '73/79 catalog.

Ford updated the part number in 1974 to D4TZ-6029-B. So, when all was said and done, the applications for this replacing part number: 1969/76 F100/250 2WD & F350 360/390.

 

Bill you have the books, I would have presumed that it was 73 when the change was made. There is a very visible crease in the top of the latter, it uses the prior not used holes on the chassis. When they are placed side by side the difference is very noticeable.

The Saginaw gear has the hydraulic connections on top where the steering shaft connects. It can not be installed without modifying (notching) or replacing the drivers side engine perch.

I don't have the number books like you do, but I have done the I-beam upgrades on several trucks. There are two driver side perches that were used between 65 & 76 when the FE was installed.



John

 

Correctamundo...and here are the 2 little charmers...

1) C5TZ-6029-A = 1965/68 F100/250 2WD & 1967/68 F350.

2) D4TZ-6029-B (replaced C9TZ-6029-A) = 1969/76 F100/250 2WD & F350.

 

I think it makes sense if we think about the boxes. 65-69 Bendix box has approximately the same dimensions as the manual steering box, hence the same perch is used for either. Ford changed the perch for '69 to accomodate the larger Saginaw box, but the same perch was used for either as it could accommodate the larger steering box. So there were 2 perches but not labeled as power steering specific because of the timeline. It becomes an issue when you retrofit the newer box into an older truck because you need the newer style perch.