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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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there's a Mustang II sitting near me.

it has a V8.

i would think it's a 302.

is that a good one or can i do better?

289's getting kind of scarce?


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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALL AMERICAN BOY
Fordy's

there's a Mustang II sitting near me.

it has a V8.

i would think it's a 302.

is that a good one or can i do better?

289's getting kind of scarce?


bob
The good news.......lots of parts are available!
The bad news, they were really gutless engines....150HP (gross or net), leaving almost 100 hp to the rear wheels...smog heads, etc....a good engine to start with and just plan on cam/head changes, etc.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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windsor or cleveland?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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The MII 302 is a "Ford 90 degree" or "Windsor" style motor. No C motors in MIIs. Last year for the C, which was a 351C, is 1974. 302C motors are Australia only. Who would waste a Boss 302 in a MII unless there were a lot more done to it--and it wouldn't end up in the scrap yard methinks....
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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good stuff 85. showing my LOK on the mustangs.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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i think you're getting to detailed there.

don't care about Boss 302.

i'm looking for junkyard small block.

i'll double check if 5.0's are 302's.

i'm staying away from THAT Mustang II looks pretty thrashed.

i've run into smog engine thing before that's easily fixed.

just looking for small block that is in VERY GOOD condition.

no junk.

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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 05:42 AM
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fordy's

wikipedia

'In the 1980s the 302 became more commonly known as the 5.0 Liter'

i'll check 'em out.

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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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See if its a 255.
 
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see if what is a 255?

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255 was issued 1980-82. Never in MII's, and no one in their right mind would have transplanted one. The clue to a 255 is an open runner intake manifold with a valley pan, like a Y block.

The 255 is to be avoided. Crank is weak, heads are poor, nothing really good about it.

Ford Windsor engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As for getting too detailed, well, paying attention to details is how you come home with a 302 and not a 255, or a 351C instead of a 351M. I could go on & on.....
 
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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Best of luck All American. I am casually interested in finding some motor parts for my next motor and have my eye out for a 255. You might have to do the same, put together one from a good 302 short block.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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what's your thinking on a 255?

a long time i saw a Ford V8 stuffed in a midget or

an import.

i thought it was a 260.

i learned later it wasn't smaller externally just less cubic inches.

260 and 289 are same dimensions outside as far as i know.

why do you want to go DOWN in cubic inches?

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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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For the crank and rods. In the past I have raced in a class limiting modifications and I am collecting parts to maybe go at it in the future.
 
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As said before to lower capacity for class restrictions, fuel economy etc. Usually get more revs out out of them too so if built properly they can go well. BUT smaller engines are for smaller cars (within reason). Capacity usually has torque (from bigger cranks, longer rods and such) and that is what it takes to get bigger vehicles moving
 
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Originally Posted by Terpfords
For the crank and rods. In the past I have raced in a class limiting modifications and I am collecting parts to maybe go at it in the future.
It's a 3" stroke just like a 302, but from what I've read then and now, it's a weaker crank.

255s are junk. They are to be avoided. As for fuel economy, they didn't do any better than the 302.
 
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