Okay guys, just had to clean this one up. This thread is about the future engine choice Ford will make for the Super Duty trucks. Let's please keep this one on topic.

Thanks!

 

There is NO WAY a CATERPILLAR engine is going to be offered in a Ford pickup.

2 reasons

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CAT was asked by Ford when the 6.0s were having problems, if they would be interested in making a diesel for their pickup. CATs response was, Ford sells more diesel pickups in ONE year than CAT make diesel engines in a year(marine,truck, equipment, stand-alone). CAT would never be able to keep up with the demand.


2.
CAT is NO LONGER making ON-ROAD diesel engines. They were sick of trying to keep up with the emissions. Even "their" new CAT tractor trailer, is running a INTERNATIONAL engine

 

The ONLY engine that has been worth anything in the Ford trucks was the 7.3L diesel. All of their other engines have been junk. I wish I had never sold my 1996 F350 with the 7.3 diesel engine. It was bulletproof!

 

Nice first post 7 1/2 years after joining. The new diesel trucks are much more enjoyable to drive, i wouldnt want anything older than an 07. I have owned 2 6.0's and loved em both. Unfortunately diesel trucks didnt fit for me anymore and have had to downsize to a car.

 

The new engines are NOT junk however they do not have the reliability of a non emissions diesel. I think it will be quite a few tears before we see a reliable engine as the 7.3 was. Until we do I will stick with my 2000 7.3 model.

 

I would have been happy to sell you mine. I got rid of my 1997 7.3 after it left me stranded 5 times and had to be towed home by my 5.4 each time. Cam sensor twice, glow plugs/relay once, broken valve spring and then ficm.

As for the original question, I saw a car tech show on tv a few years ago and they were talking about Ford using the cat engine and that the deal fell apart because cat wanted their name on the truck like the Cummins and Ford refused. After all the work they have put in the 6.7 I don't see them changing engines again anytime soon.

 

Just to throw this out there, the 6.0 was not built for it's release date power output. Ford couldn't release a lower hp/trq rating in the diesel wars with GM so they pushed the output past the intended original rating on the engine. This is what I was told. Hence the fact that it was designed with less and weaker head bolts than needed. I think the the cab and chassis 6.0 were rated lower than the consumer trucks, no?

 

The horsepower rating on the chassis/cab trucks is measured differently, which is why you see a lower HP figure. No difference in the drive train at all.

 

Sheer speculation and conjecture at its finest. Navistar wouldn't warrant an engine that was made to make more power than it was designed for. But they did, which blows that theory out of the water.

Of course there was a big lawsuit over Navistar denying some claims, but if your statement was correct there would be no claims filed because there would be no warranty.

 

just something I had heard on more than one occasion, didn't know if it was truth or bs.

 

I am one of those guys that sits back and waits for other to try this stuff out then buy the best one. I'm gonna be waiting awhile for another new one!

I'd like to see a cat in a ford it would be interesting if nothing else.

 

I believe it, and I guess it just bugs me how internet rumors like that just won't die, that's all.

 

Saw a brand new 2014 F250 lariat at the dealer with the 6.7 psd.

 

There is no change of engine in the near future that I can see.

 

False

Caterpillar no longer makes on road diesel due to the fact they are sick of trying to meet emissions. Also, Ford went to CAT back in 06 and asked about building them a light truck engine. CAT told ford, they could NOT keep up with their engine demands.,that ford sells more diesel pickups in ONE year, than CAT even makes diesel engines for ALL their applications. And besides, I think Ford has hit a home run with the 6.7