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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Mil Spec 6.0

Here's a link to International's Mil-Spec 6.0. I find it very interesting that some obvious changes have been made including a different EGR cooler and EGR valve, and turbo. Fuel injection system still appears to be the same and not the HPFP setup like what's on the 6.4 engine. Also HP and torque has recieved a nice bump at 340 hp/660 lb-ft

Very Interesting...

Navistar Defense - Navistar Defense MaxxForce 6.0D Engine
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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Too bad they couldn't have built it like that back in 03...but then I wouldn't have gotten to know all you nice folks on this forum.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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And with the 100's of billions scheduled to be cut from the defence budget, I am sure Navistar wouldn't be selling very many.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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That was more than likely a variation on how the 6.0 was supposed to be, shame International never got to do it their way....
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Looks like they upgraded the EGR system to the 6.4's original system.

The one on the 6.4D looks nothing like what Ford used... at ALL.

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:16 PM
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And with the 100's of billions scheduled to be cut from the defence budget, I am sure Navistar wouldn't be selling very many.
I want one! Now where can I find the money? Think the Govt will bail me out?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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I want one! Now where can I find the money? Think the Govt will bail me out?

The government is going to be giving you free contraceptives, what more do you want
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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Too late........I got neutered last march.

O and I want that engine in my Super Duty! lol
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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It would be nice if we could buy some of those parts from Navistar to upgrade our existing 6L motors to the military spec if that means reliability.

On a side note, the torque output of the 6L was at 660 lb.ft in the F650 and 750 offerings back in 2005-07 so that's really nothing new.
 
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Would that engine work in our truck's? Would it bolt up to everything? Would our computer stuff work?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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Would that engine work in our truck's? Would it bolt up to everything? Would our computer stuff work?
That's an interesting thought.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dc3655
On a side note, the torque output of the 6L was at 660 lb.ft in the F650 and 750 offerings back in 2005-07 so that's really nothing new.
That I didn't know and a bit surpised of this as well.... The reason I'm surprised is alot of folks blamed Ford for tuning this engine for too much power hence some of the headgasket/headbolt failures thories.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Would that engine work in our truck's? Would it bolt up to everything? Would our computer stuff work?
I gotta say that is one good looking engine and I like the color as well. Reminds me of the old Ford blue engines.

I suspect the cost for this engine is probably cost prohibitive.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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Let's also remember that it's not the internal parts of the engines that make the bHP and torque numbers. It's the calibration strategies. An E-Series and F-Series 6.0L share virtually indentical internal parts, other than a few minor external bolt-on accessories, they are the SAME. The E-Series specs are 235 bHP and 440 ft-lbs. of torque, while the F-Series are rated at 325 bHP and 570 ft-lbs. as most of you are already aware. For what it's worth F-650 and Navistar truck versions are derated even down lower to 200 bHP or up as high as 260 bHP if I recall correctly. They are also redlined at 3000 RPMs, while E-Series and F-250 to F-550 engine are redlined at 3900 to 4000 RPMs. That said, I highly doubt anything inside the engine itself is anything new or worthwhile considering upgrading to. Heck, most of you guys already well exceed those numbers with your tuners alone, which is fine and dandy, as long as it doesn't come at the expense of reduced dependability and reliability.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Id like to put those alve coers on my truck...and yes its a good looking engine, but not mch of it would be visable in our engine compartments...

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