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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Question Navigation system & wheels

Does anyone know if the Navigation system is automatically updated. The kid at the dealer says it does through Sync system. It is a $2000 + upgrade and if it doesn't my Garmin will be fine.

Also, I am still torn between the 20" wheels and the 18" wheels. I go off road fairly often. It is light off road corn, hay fields and such for dog training and goose hunting.

I have been told the 20" handle better on pavement. I didn't notice a difference in test driving both. The just look really sharp. I have read where the tires on the 20" are not lasting very long.

I am just trying to make the best decissions when I place my order.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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The Garmin will serve you well. I also like the 17" or 18" wheels as I like a taller sidewall for an easier ride.

I think the 20' tires that you're reading or hearing about are the Perelli Scorpions. They apparently have little grip and they don't last.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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The Navigation is not an automatic or free upgrade. You pay each time, if you ever wanted one. I can't imagine maps needing an upgrade very often, but you can buy a Garmin for the price of an upgrade.
Having said that, there is much more to the Nav option than the maps.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cnvF250
The kid at the dealer says it does through Sync system.
Wow. I don't know if I should , , or just .

You gotta ask the kid how this works. Could be one of the best stories you'll hear in a long time. Keep in mind the updates come on a DVD (8GB of data).

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The Navigation is not an automatic or free upgrade. You pay each time, if you ever wanted one. I can't imagine maps needing an upgrade very often, but you can buy a Garmin for the price of an upgrade.
Having said that, there is much more to the Nav option than the maps.
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Updates are $199 and must be purchased directly from Navteq. This includes the Gracenote CD DB and maps.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Last I heard, Garmin also charges for map updates after 90 days from purchase: $50 for one-time updates or $90 life-time updates (up to 4 times a year), but cannot be transferred to another person or product and can be terminated by Garmin if you violate their terms of agreement.

Cheaper than Navteq updates for sure...
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cnvF250
Also, I am still torn between the 20" wheels and the 18" wheels. I go off road fairly often. It is light off road corn, hay fields and such for dog training and goose hunting.

I have been told the 20" handle better on pavement. I didn't notice a difference in test driving both. The just look really sharp. I have read where the tires on the 20" are not lasting very long.
Overall, unless you will do a bunch of rock climbing or running bumpy trails at high-speed, there shouldn't be any significant difference between 18 and 20's off-road. For a given tire diameter, the 18" will offer more sidewall for flexing and softening of bumps.

The Pirelli's that Ford puts on their 20" rims are not well suited for off-road operation so those may be the first things you want to replace when you have the opportunity.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Don't forget- the bigger the rim the bigger the pricetag for tires also.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Don't forget- the bigger the rim the bigger the pricetag for tires also.
Beat me to it.
 
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Originally Posted by Augster
Last I heard, Garmin also charges for map updates after 90 days from purchase: $50 for one-time updates or $90 life-time updates (up to 4 times a year), but cannot be transferred to another person or product and can be terminated by Garmin if you violate their terms of agreement.

Cheaper than Navteq updates for sure...
Any Garmins that have a model number ending in "LM" or "LMT" have free updates included for life.
 
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