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Has anyone tried e85? Have you noticed a performance difference? Mpg better, worse or no change? I was thinking about giving it a shot since the octane rating is supposedly higher. I also remember reading ir hearing it takes more e85 to do the same work as 87. So the cheaper price may be mute because you use more e85.
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Has anyone tried e85? Have you noticed a performance difference? Mpg better, worse or no change? I was thinking about giving it a shot since the octane rating is supposedly higher. I also remember reading ir hearing it takes more e85 to do the same work as 87. So the cheaper price may be mute because you use more e85.
I lost at least 2-3 mpg when using E85.
So unless you can get the E85 much cheaper, it's not worth the money.
Good information at this site:
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Forget E85 on sun. the govt. subsidities go off and prices r expected to go up dramaticaly, one figure I saw said with the reduced mileage a comparable gallon of e85 to a gallon of reg. unleaded would be about 3.88 per gallon, and all fuel is expected to be near 4 by start of summer and go up from there....
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Waste of precious corn. Even 10% can cost 1 to 2mpg.
If it was around $1.25 a gallon, it might be worth it.
If it was around $1.25 a gallon, it might be worth it.
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It is normally made from corn stalk, ie. waist. If it were about 50 cents cheaper than regular it would be more economical... It SHOULD be $1.25 though, as it is made from waste products mainly.
I like to run e-85 once every other month or so as it cleans the hell outta injectors, valves, etc. I drop about 2 mpgs but I have felt the extra torque when towing and driving with a heavy foot. Actually, its about time for me to run a tank through my truck... Thanks for reminding me.
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i searched the 2012 2nd printing, figguring it would be the most current.
what section did you find additional requirements?
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ddg has more feed value that raw corn the majority of corn is feed to animals
corn oil food grade
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i cannot find any reference to additional maintenance required with the use of flex fuel. There is a note about using one tank of regular gas per oil change, but that's all i could find.
i searched the 2012 2nd printing, figguring it would be the most current.
what section did you find additional requirements?
i searched the 2012 2nd printing, figguring it would be the most current.
what section did you find additional requirements?
2009 Scheduled Maintenance Guide (smg)
Scheduled Maintenance Guide, 2nd Printing
USA (fus)
Special Operating Conditions
However, if one or more of the Special Operating Conditions outlined below better describes how you typically operate your vehicle, you will need to perform some maintenance services more often than the Normal Schedule recommends.
• Towing a trailer or carrying heavy loads
• Extensive idling and/or driving at low-speeds for long distances
• Driving in dusty conditions
• Off-road operation
• Use of E85 fuel 50% of the time or greater (flex fuel vehicles only)
Important: For further details and information regarding these Special Operating Conditions see page 42.
Page 42: Use of E85 50% of the time or greater (flex fuel vehicles only)
Every 5,000 miles Rotate tires, inspect tires for wear and measure tread depth
Inspect the wheels and related components for abnormal noise, wear, looseness, or drag
Every 3,000 miles Fill fuel tank with a full tank of regular unleaded fuel
Every 5,000 miles or 6 months Change engine oil and replace oil filter
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thanks! I did not look at the maintenance manual. I'll look through those as well.
Reading the list of "special operating conditions" is rather suprising.
i typically my trucks for towing, long distances, and i live on gravel. ... looks like i'm doing it more often anyway
I wonder if the -12 maintenance is the same, with the advent of the IOLM.
Reading the list of "special operating conditions" is rather suprising.
i typically my trucks for towing, long distances, and i live on gravel. ... looks like i'm doing it more often anyway
I wonder if the -12 maintenance is the same, with the advent of the IOLM.
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Are you talking about E85 made right here in the good ol' US of A?
If so, it is made from harvested corn, usually not corn stalks, although some farmers do harvest corn stalks (as in bale it or shred it) as a bedding or a feed.
Other countries have their own recipes.
If so, it is made from harvested corn, usually not corn stalks, although some farmers do harvest corn stalks (as in bale it or shred it) as a bedding or a feed.
Other countries have their own recipes.
