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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 02:18 AM
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Need an experts advice.

Here's something I never thought I would consider. I might buy a running f250 7.3 idi with a broken injector line (completely open) but I don't have a way to tow it. What kind of problems can occur if I were to cap off the line to stop fuel flow and drive it down the road with one dead cylinder? I'm not sure how the injection pump would like that or how much the one cylinder dead would effect it's drive ability. Like I said, never thought I would consider the idea.

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 02:28 AM
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I'd just get a line, or try and fix it....I wonder if any hose would hold up for the trip? How far do you need to drive?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 02:58 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I would have to drive about 20 miles. He won't let me work on it in his driveway. Maybe a temporary line repair would work.......... You might have something there.

It just occurred to me that I could drive it a short ways down the road and fix it there. Why didn't I think of that earlier?

Okay, if we have that problem solved, I would still like to know what happens in the injector pump when a line is plugged.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:36 AM
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I doubt it would affect the injection pump just blocking off 1 line but having a dry injector moving for very long isn't going to do it any good.

I had an injector tip get damaged due to a broken push tube on a 400 cummins. I was in the middle of nowhere in the dark. I didn't want to wash the cylinder with fuel so I cut down a penny with wire cutters small enough to fit into the fuel line to block the fuel. Drove around 100 miles to get into town. I had pulled the rocker cover, found the problem, hitched a ride to a small logging town and found a logging company that had a few parts.

Put the thing back together and then is when I found the bad injector, no place to get one. Got about 60 miles down the road on a steep hill (running on 5 cylinders) went to grab a lower gear and the clutch bracket on the bell housing broke, so no clutch either. Made it town though, new injector, oil change, run the overhead and back on the road. That's the great part about an all mechanical engine like the older diesels, IDI included.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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DON'T run it blocked! It will damage the pump! Jeez, worse comes to worse, stick a rubber hose over it, clamp it tight, and splice it in to your return line.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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IIRC theres a guy selling a flexable line on ebay but it's 20 bucksmore then the hard line. If I were you and couldnt work on it there, show up with a truck and tools, tow it to a parking lot and change the line there, then drive home on all 8!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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like was said hook a rubber hose up to it, i would run it to a catch can though.

in a real pinch, run the washer fluid dry, take the hose loose under the hood, slip that over the line, use the washer fuild tank as ur catch can.

I sure the owner will atleast let u hook up a rubber hose, tell him other wise its gonna leave a trail of diesel out of ur drive way.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Brant Bowrifle
Here's something I never thought I would consider. I might buy a running f250 7.3 idi with a broken injector line (completely open) but I don't have a way to tow it. What kind of problems can occur if I were to cap off the line to stop fuel flow and drive it down the road with one dead cylinder? I'm not sure how the injection pump would like that or how much the one cylinder dead would effect it's drive ability. Like I said, never thought I would consider the idea.

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Do NOT pinch the line off. I have heard that can ruin the IP. It may even just blow the pinch open any way. Cut the line cleanly, install a rubber hose and run it into the return system. The easiest ways I can think of tapping into the return system are through either the fuel filter head or the rubber return line behind the engine. Don't mess with the return line caps because they will start leaking.

No, the hose won't explode because of the pressure the pump puts out. That pressure reading is only good when you have something restricting the flow. It will just spit fuel at a relatively small rate of flow.

The engine will run but it will be rough. You'll want to take it easy.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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Many good reply's. You guys rock . I thought it might cause damage to block off a line but don't think I need to risk it anyway.

If I can find where I left my extra injector lines I'll run a soft line as described and get the hard line installed down the road a ways. If I can't find it in time I'll just splice into the return line and take it easy back home.

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brant Bowrifle
Many good reply's. You guys rock . I thought it might cause damage to block off a line but don't think I need to risk it anyway.

If I can find where I left my extra injector lines I'll run a soft line as described and get the hard line installed down the road a ways. If I can't find it in time I'll just splice into the return line and take it easy back home.

Thanks fellas.
What ever you do, don't try to use a soft line to "repair" the injector line in an attempt to get the injector to fire. It will either leak or the hose will burst. It is best to just let it drain off somewhere with low pressure.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:27 PM
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well since you asked for expert advice.the expert response to your question would be to replace the line:

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before driving the truck home,or have it towed home.
if you can't afford either of these options,then it's highly likely you can't afford to drive and properly maintain the HD diesel truck anyway and you should consider a different truck.

expert advice wouldn't be to pinch off the line nor temporarily run low pressure fuel hose on a high pressure fuel line.
it may sound a bit harsh,but i mean no disrespect.
i don't consider myself an idi expert by any means,but im fairly confident this is what one would suggest.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Good advice. I just don't know if I want to trust a Patriots fan........... .

I found my extra lines. See, I can afford to maintain a HD diesel. I just go shopping in the ole' garage where the cheap stuff is.

Thanks for the good advice. Luckily it's one of the easy lines, so it shouldn't be to hard to replace.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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lol! we can't be trusted i tell you! two more games to get to the super bowl! come on PATS!
spare parts is always good.if you thought you had the parts,im not sure why you bothered asking on what to do though lol.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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lol! we can't be trusted i tell you! two more games to get to the super bowl! come on PATS!
spare parts is always good.if you thought you had the parts,im not sure why you bothered asking on what to do though lol.
Yeah, got in a hurry so that I wouldn't have to let a good deal pass by. Good thing I found my parts. I still wanted to know about the injection pump function. If I were able to cap off a line then I would have done that and had the truck out yesterday. But no matter. I am the proud owner of another diesel. Can't have to many I say. One day those old Cummins and idi's might be the only thing left on the road. Body rusted off but still going strong . Either way you all were an excellent help as always.

Bronco's will bring you down! Probably not though. Tom Brady is my favorite quarterback from a skill and style stand point but I have to go with my Broncos. If you guys had a better defense than it would be another possible undefeated year I have know dought. Watch out for that diesel like arm of Tebow. It's a long stroke but it can get ya' if your not careful!

Enjoy the game. I know I will.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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The IP is a positive displacement pump, so it will keep building pressure until something gives. I don't know if it has any over-pressure protection, but even if it does, it can't be good for it...
 
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