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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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THE DEATH SHAKE

When driving my truck as soon as i get over 25mph it gets a insane shake that is so bad i feel like the windshield is going to blow out. My truck has been lifted and it has 36" tires. I feel like its the front left tires. My tires have been balanced and are at the right air pressure. HELP
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Did this start after the 35's were put on? Maybe swap that tire with the right rear and see if the shaking goes away up front. If so, you may have gotten a bad tire, seen it before. Also, make sure everything is tight up front, tie rod ends, wheel bearings, lug nuts, all bolts for lift kit, etc..
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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Body lift or suspension lift? 2wd or 4wd? TTB or solid axle front end?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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ill put money that its a sticking brake caliper!!!
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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Death wobble is commonly attributed to those POS jeeps. But it's not uncommon on other vehicles.

If it starts as early as 25 MPH, I'll say alignment.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Do these trucks have a track bar on the front end? I have a 95 F SD that was having a death shake over 45 mph. It would try to take the steering wheel away from you. I threw everything at it -tie rod ends(inside and out), wheel bearings, tires. It turned out to be a track bar. It had a little rubber grommet in it like a pivot arm bushing does. I replaced it and the death shake went away.

Sometimes the steel belts can seperate on a tire and cause a wobble. The few I have experienced didnt shake like your saying though.

Those big mudders you have might not even have belts in them either.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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these trucks come with twin beam front ends which do not come with trac bars because each side is attached to the frame unless he has put a solid axle front end like mine
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Barkin 40s
these trucks come with twin beam front ends which do not come with trac bars because each side is attached to the frame unless he has put a solid axle front end like mine
Like he says, no trac bars.

Problems with the TTB arise at around a 4'' suspension lift. Sometimes you might get away with it, other times not. The 4'' lift kits I see comes with new radius arm drop brackets and a drop pitman arm.

And, since the PO has 35's, that's why I'm leaning towards alignment.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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well if it ends up NOT bein a brake caliper i would strongly suggest puttin a solid axle dana 44 under it instead of pouring $ into a axle thats known for eating tires and not staying aligned. it will save $ in the long run.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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I couldnt recall if the TTB's used a track bar or not. I know the TTB's are finicky about lift kits. The guys that build the pre runners have to cut and weld TTB to get the angle back to right for the ball joints when they lift them. I didnt know 4" would screw something up like that too.

The F Superduty I have is 4x2 so it has a different set up all together than the 4x4's and the other 4x4 1/2 ton I had was a Dodge and it did have a track bar also. Like you said though it was a solid axle up front.

Barkin 40's , did you do a SAS or did your truck come like that?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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ive done a sas before but not on the blue ford, it came like that but its not done as well as i would like it to be, its fairly easy to do if you get all the parts together at one time and get it done in one weekend day dawn to dusk, you dont have to have a welder but i would suggest to weld rather than bolt, but thats just me
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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All 1/2 ton Ford 4x4's come with the TTb I was thinking. The 3/4 tons can either have the TTb or the SA , but the 1 tons and bigger all have SA's . Did Ford ever put SA's in their 1/2 tons like even many yrs ago?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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yep 79 and older all came with solid axles except 2wd, 80 and newer all had ttb except 4x4 f350 which had dana 60 solid front
 
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Originally Posted by wtc2792
When driving my truck as soon as i get over 25mph it gets a insane shake that is so bad i feel like the windshield is going to blow out. My truck has been lifted and it has 36" tires. I feel like its the front left tires. My tires have been balanced and are at the right air pressure. HELP
I've been battling this since I put my lift on last year. It feels like the left side as well on mine. Does your truck do it only in relation to speed? I've found that over 35mph the chance for it to start is greater and only over certain bumps. I can go a week without it doing it or it can do it everyday. I dunno if you can tell when it's going to happen, but after a year, I can feel when she's going to act up and slow down. I just sent it in for an alignment today after replacing the steering linkages. My buddy said the toe, camber, and caster was off. He set toe and ordered up some camber/caster bushings. Not sure if it'll even help, but at least it's something else to check off the list of offenders.

Originally Posted by bruno2
All 1/2 ton Ford 4x4's come with the TTb I was thinking. The 3/4 tons can either have the TTb or the SA , but the 1 tons and bigger all have SA's . Did Ford ever put SA's in their 1/2 tons like even many yrs ago?
1980 was the first year for the ttb, prior to that they used straight axles. 1985.5 was when Ford brought back the D60 in F350's, prior to that ALL 1980-85 4x4s came factory with ttb.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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well if it ends up NOT bein a brake caliper i would strongly suggest puttin a solid axle dana 44 under it instead of pouring $ into a axle thats known for eating tires and not staying aligned. it will save $ in the long run.
These front suspensions are known for eating tires and not staying aligned when you try and do something with them that they weren't designed for from the factory. In other words, big lift kits and tall and/or wide tires.

For a stock daily driver or even a modified 4x4 trail rig, the TTB does just fine in 1/2 and 3/4 ton vehicles. The issues come from not being able to get the alignment right. To fix this, use the proper pitman arm, proper radius arm drop brackets and/or longer radius arms, and if need be, having new camber and caster bushings installed on the drivers side of the TTB like dohc_chump mentioned.

For most daily drivers and mild offroad use like for going hunting or added security during hard winters and maybe even a little farm use, the TTB front end is one of Ford's smarter ideas. I personally love the ride quality that they give.

There are also plenty of articles online about making long-travel TTB suspensions. Not to mention the guys who like to build pre-runners love them. There's also a decent amount of aftermarket support.
 
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