are the 7.3 engine bellhousing the same as dt?? they both are interntional?? I'd use a f450 frame.

I know what you are going to say."it's toon big" but i think i had an epiphany of making it work easily. maybe.

I bet somone would pay $20k for that truck.

 

The only problem with the 466 is it's a straight 6 engine, and is very big and long.

You'd need a Super Cab truck, move everything back, and drive from the back seat

 

maybe hes gonna hack out the firewall and have a doghouse for the back of the engine

 

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

 

well ... ha a f600 f700 etc cab is hacked already the firewall is recessed. as well as the shifter position is farther back too. ha ha?? am i on to something?? in got one with the engine out. I can take pictures if you guys are interested in seeing it.

 

it's 5 degrees out but i was curious. Hmm i don't know. the f medium duty truck can come with cats, cummins anything under there. cab is basically the same the floor is different too has rail running up the long way

 

Depends on what all you're thinking. Would a 466 fit into a larger series truck? Sure. Will it bolt up to a ZF5 or E4OD? I understand they are different there, as guys have asked about going the other way (using a DT466 5 speed behind an IDI), and generally it seems they won't bolt up.

Dropping that into a Super Duty frame gives some other issues, the cross members on the Super duties at the front are close to, or the same as the F250/350, so oil pan clearance, motor mounts and steering clearance may be issues. If you are wanting 4x4, then you are now looking at a 4wd conversion on a superduty, which is another whole new battle. And on a superduty the 4x4 flange for the transfer case is already in use for the parking brake, so there are some more issues there.

Lay out some more ideas of what you have in mind, and we can figure out a lot better at what kind of hurdles are in the track for the project.

 

5.9L 12v Cummins Engine Dimensions:
Length:
40.0 inches
Width:
24.9 inches
Height:
37.9 inches

Block dimensions =

DT466
Dimensions L=45.1 in x W=29.3 in x H=40.8 in (1146 mm) x (744 mm) x (1036 mm)
T444E
Dimensions L=35.7 in. x W=29.4 in. x H=36.6 in. (907 mm) x (747 mm) x (93mm)

 

no it would be divorced of course. even the 4x4 fmedium duty trucks from factory or wherever come with divorced rockwell transfer cases rockwell 221 or 223. a dt466 can tranny can be used for sure t444 same as powerstroke came with fuller transmissions and uses sae 2 bellhousing. Mainly im wondering if the medium duty cab will make it easy all the dimesnions are basically same as 7.3 except for 10" in length.

see the hump? that where that extra ten inches will go. I think this would work . heck the hump could probably be modified to unbolt for access to engine. A dana super 60 up front .

 

here's a guy who put a eaton in a superduty and it sounds like a cummins but i'm deaf

DIESEL TRUCK BUT NO SKIRT SHIFTING LONG GEAR LEVER. - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYtb..._order&list=UL

 

So then it should be do-able. Biggest thing I can see is that you will want some length....no regular cab, short box here, or bronco body, as you'll need some length to get everything in the driveline.

Basically you would be building an older version of the 'big' pickups that are around now. Not sure if it would be worth 20K, but would certainly be different and fun.

 

I was just pondering it. I'm to busy to do it now but if i ever got the engine cheap enough........ But the f800 cab would make even cummins 12v swaps easier.

 

The bell on medium duty trucks are round, sized in what is called SAE bells, while the light duty bells are Ford specific. The adapter plate on the back of the motor is what dictates what bells you can hook up. From the factory there is an adapter plate that goes from the block to the trans. The 6.9 and 7.3 IDI and Powerstroke motors both come in light and medium duty applications. However, it isn't like in the gas motors where the bell bolts up to the motor direct, they swap out the adapter plates for the different bell styles.

I did know someone that had put a DT466 and 9 speed in an F350, had to hack up the firewall to have a doghouse like you showed in the pic. His was a 2wd.

 

i am currently in the process of putting a 453 Detroit in a 1970 chevy C30. everyone and there brother has swapped a 12v in something, go with something more origional. A DT 360 might fit better..and you could tell all the come a part guys you still have a 5.9 under the hood..lol

 

I don't think firewall needs to be hacked if using a f700 cab that's my point here.