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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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replacing 2003 standpipes?

Im going to be getting into UA 798 soon and will have to take the 6 leaker all over the country wherever the pipeline work is, going to do a bunch of things before I leave to hope there are no failures while I'm 2,000 miles away from home in the mountains, one is I want to replace the o rings on the standpipes but apparently you cant buy o rings anymore so I'll just buy the two standpipes and put them in.

My 2004 had the W oil rail so the standpipe on those were simple to remove

but the 2003 has the different cylinder shaped oil rail and the stand pipe has a steel braided hose connected to it right?

so question is, what are the steps after the valve covers are off to replace them?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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I don't think these are a problem on the 03 , maybe replace injector O rings ???
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Guess I'm a little confused...are you talking about an '03 or '04 truck?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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2003, the one in my signature, wanted to replace the standpipe o rings, I have a problem with a longer warm crank than cold start
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Ok, now I'm with you. Might want to get ahold of Clay at RiffRaff...he's got the o-ring kit your going to need for the injectors...

Riffraff Diesel: Alliant 6.0L Injector O-rings 03-07

Where the oil rails go into the injectors is one spot you can have a HPO leak on the '03. Not sure if you can replace the o-rings on the braided hose. Been a while since I was in there, and I can't remember where the o-ring was (female or male side of the coupling). The '03 aren't known for HPO leaks in the rails/standpipes.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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Ok, now I'm with you. Might want to get ahold of Clay at RiffRaff...he's got the o-ring kit your going to need for the injectors...

Riffraff Diesel: Alliant 6.0L Injector O-rings 03-07

Where the oil rails go into the injectors is one spot you can have a HPO leak on the '03. Not sure if you can replace the o-rings on the braided hose. Been a while since I was in there, and I can't remember where the o-ring was (female or male side of the coupling). The '03 aren't known for HPO leaks in the rails/standpipes.
I see, well I'll take your word on it if you are sure.

do you know how to replace the braided hose? I would imagine it is expensive

and when replacing the o ring inside the top of the injector can I just pop the old one out with a pick tool or do I need something special?

one more, could a icp sensor cause this symptom I am having with the longer crank when hot? or possibly a bad injector?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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Im lost I couldnt find what your drivability concerns was besides a longer crank time

Do you have any gauges

checked for codes

Whatever the drivability concern is could be lots of things

could be a FICM and changing HPO parts wont help

alittle troubleshoot might narrow it down some throwing parts at it will get expensive

2003 have a pretty solid HPO system not like the 05+ models
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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can be 25 degrees outside and the truck will fire in the morning with 1 glow cycle in a split second

but drive it for a half hour, shut it off and come back in ten minutes and it cranks for like 6-7 seconds before it starts, just seems like the beginning of something that might get worse down the road and I dont want to be across the country in the middle of no where when something on the truck decides to go

no codes I already checked, no gauges, I dont believe the ICP sensor was ever replaced, was kind of wondering if that could cause this

I resoldered my ficm, I think I have 1-2 injectors that are bad but I want to try t6 with some revx before I go into that currently using dino oil
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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motocraft oil filter????

that is odd ad without some kinda gaugwes I kinda think your shooting in the dark

the reason I dont think its oil relaited is everytime you shut it off it would Bleed off it is always hot upon shutdown and should bleed off everytime with that kinda issue

IDK lots of possibilties here IMO

you need a way to monitor ICP and IPR% to check the HPO system depending on the #s when it gets hot will be able to tell if it leaks
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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motocraft oil filter????

that is odd ad without some kinda gaugwes I kinda think your shooting in the dark

the reason I dont think its oil relaited is everytime you shut it off it would Bleed off it is always hot upon shutdown and should bleed off everytime with that kinda issue

IDK lots of possibilties here IMO

you need a way to monitor ICP and IPR% to check the HPO system depending on the #s when it gets hot will be able to tell if it leaks
I see, I think it is probably a stupid sensor, maybe when the ICP sensor gets warm it starts to malfunction who knows? not sure if I want to spend $160 on a scangauge right now so I guess we'll see what happens
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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I see, I think it is probably a stupid sensor, maybe when the ICP sensor gets warm it starts to malfunction who knows? not sure if I want to spend $160 on a scangauge right now so I guess we'll see what happens
Exactly it could be a few diffrent sensors or even FICM who knows
Electrical Hot & Cold is just bad JUJU it stresses everything and there a POS to diagnos

and there is nothing that says even if you buy a ScanGauge that you will be able to pinpoint the issue But it may help would be able to rule some things out at the minimum
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Exactly it could be a few diffrent sensors or even FICM who knows
Electrical Hot & Cold is just bad JUJU it stresses everything and there a POS to diagnos

and there is nothing that says even if you buy a ScanGauge that you will be able to pinpoint the issue But it may help would be able to rule some things out at the minimum
agreed, do you know a substitute tool for disconnecting the oil lines underneath the valve covers? kind of random, I saw a picture of one and it looks like a clutch line disconnect tool, was wondering what you use since your trucks a 03
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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I havent went past the injectors and when I did those I would just rotate the oil rail out of the way but left it hooked up

I beleive Duke made one and has some pics of it in his profile I beleive it was kinda like what your saying about the clutch disconnect tool
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Clutch disconnect tool is the same size. I've used them before. Oh, removing the 03 standpipes destroys them. They screw in.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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so anytime 2003 standpipes are removed they MUST be replaced corret?
 
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