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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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power steering pump for flathead?

What did you guys use with the straight axel set up. I called blundell's a few time and no reply. Are they still in business? Any other options to mount to flathead V8?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Blundell's was the one I was thinking of, and hopefully he's still in business.

Otherwise: Ford Flat Head Serpenting Dive Kit

One option is to use the stock PS from, say a 1953, passenger car.

I haven't got there yet, but I'm using the Toyota PS box with a standard PS pump and will probably machine my own brackets.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Have heard some bad things about Blundells, don't know if they are true.....might want to do a google search.
 

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Originally Posted by tinman52
Have heard some bad things about Blundells, don't know if they are true.....might want to do a google search.
I did the search but found nothing other than blendells. What have you heard?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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I have blundell's set up on my 239. It took months to get my stuff but in the end it all worked out pretty slick. Spendy for what it is but it works well with my No Limit rack. PM me and I'll give you my # or can give you more details here.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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There are several threads on the HAMB about him, guys paid for parts and never got them......supposedly has closed up shop, but is still advertising and taking orders. I have not dealt with him personally.....sounds like a bad deal though.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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If you are dedicated, you could duplicate the Blundell flathead power steering pump kit without too much trouble. The picture in the rod and custom magazine article shows all the parts. The only change from their design would be to have someone make your pulley so you could bolt the fan to it.
 
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If you are dedicated, you could duplicate the Blundell flathead power steering pump kit without too much trouble. The picture in the rod and custom magazine article shows all the parts. The only change from their design would be to have someone make your pulley so you could bolt the fan to it.

I can do that but what pump do I use?
 
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Do the same thing that Blundell probably did, go to the local auto parts store and ask to look at all their small power steering pumps with an external reservoir. Take your fan bracket & hub assembly with you so you have a size to shoot for. I'd probably start with Toyota pumps since that is the box you are planning on using.
 
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I would agree with 38 on the idea to make your own. I think the pump is actually a ch@&y unit div
 
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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I would agree with 38 on the idea to make your own. I think the pump is actually a ch@&y unit divorced from it's res, they are not internal like Fords. I am not trying to rip off anyones design but I do have the bracket on my truck and could help you with your own interpretation. I ended up making my own fan pulley also so I can give you info there as well. Let me know.

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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gobybike
I would agree with 38 on the idea to make your own. I think the pump is actually a ch@&y unit divorced from it's res, they are not internal like Fords. I am not trying to rip off anyones design but I do have the bracket on my truck and could help you with your own interpretation. I ended up making my own fan pulley also so I can give you info there as well. Let me know.

Jake

Any pictures or measurements would be great. Most helpful I think would be the height,width, length and distance of the pump and from motor would be awesome. Did you use the Toyota gearbox? Did you buy it from a kit with all included? Any and all info would be appreciated greatly.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gobybike
I think the pump is actually a chevy unit divorced from its reservoir, they are not internal like Fords.
The Ford P/S pump with the internal reservoir was first introduced in 1965 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars, but there are two 1965 exceptions.

1953/64 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars; 1965 Thunderbird; 1965 Mustang (before 8/23/1964-w/a generator), used the Eaton P/S pump. The Eaton's reservoir is separate from the pump.

The reservoir either bolts to the top of the pump, or on some (1955/57 T-Birds for one example), was remotely mounted on the left fender inner apron.

There are four pumps, three types of reservoir lids. Any of the four pumps will interchange: 900-3A674, 900-3A674-AC, 1100-3A674, 1100-3A674-AC.

At the front of the pump is a large bolt head, one of these numbers (less 3A674) will be stamped on it. Originally the 1100's were used on FE engines, the 900's on I-6's, Y blocks, 221/260/289's.

The Ford part number's AC suffix refers to Air Conditioning.

The early lid has to be removed to add fluid, as there's no fill cap. The next type of lid has a cap w/an attached dipstick, but was subject to spitting fluid from it. The last type of lid has a raised tower the cap/dipstick fits onto.

I would think that today, the mounting bracket for 1953 flatties would be difficult to find. But, there are a couple of local (Los Angeles area) sources that might have a few flattie pumps w/the bracket still attached.

Note: These Eaton pumps were also used on 1954/66 Studebaker, 1952/56 Packard, 1957/58 Packabaker, 1954/57 Nash/Hudson (and prolly after 1957 on AMC's), 1954/55 Kaiser.

I know that GM cars used similar pumps, don't know if they were Eatons...or not.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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I would think that today, the mounting bracket for 1953 flatties would be difficult to find. But, there are a couple of local (Los Angeles area) sources that might have a few flattie pumps w/the bracket still attached.

What local shop in LA? Any pictures of a pump mounted to a flattie would be awesome.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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Also see Power Steering Pumps and Alternator Brackets

I believe the PS pump Blundell uses is from a late model LS1, as used on Corvettes and Camaros; the one used on late GTOs was also very small with remote reservoir.

If you have a flathead with car-type belts (two narrow belts vs. one fat, one narrow) it would be real easy to add a pump bracket off the driver's side head.
 
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