1959 F-100 engine comments?
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
Hey fellas, i havent been on the board in a while, because i bought a new car and hadnt looked much into stuff for my truck. But today while i was at work i ran into a guy that has a 66' with a 429 in it...i would put this engine in my truck but dont know if i want such a huge motor in it...seems like I would have to cut out a lot of stuff, to get it to fit. Anybody know if that is a fact?
Also he has a modded 302 that would deffinetly fit, are 302's good motors to put into these trucks, i currently still have the stock 292 in it, with my granny 4 speed.
No matter the engine i get, i think im gonna goto a automatic transmission...unless you guys thing otherwise, because this guy has some great deals on some good motors and transmissions. Get back to me. And thanks ahead of time for the help and the decisions. There are pics on here somewhere if you need to take a look at my truck...later
T.L.
Also he has a modded 302 that would deffinetly fit, are 302's good motors to put into these trucks, i currently still have the stock 292 in it, with my granny 4 speed.
No matter the engine i get, i think im gonna goto a automatic transmission...unless you guys thing otherwise, because this guy has some great deals on some good motors and transmissions. Get back to me. And thanks ahead of time for the help and the decisions. There are pics on here somewhere if you need to take a look at my truck...later
T.L.
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
I have a 1959 Ford F100 with a 289 out of a 66 Mustang with a C4 automatic. Some character before me welded the two pedals together (clutch and brake) so it makes a wide brake pedal and put an automatic in hooked to the column 3-speed linkage. It all works great. It's hole shot city, fast out the hole, probably because of the low ratio rear end.
The 302 has more power than a 289, plenty of room, and should be easy to hook up and work on. It will probably even look small sitting in there.
The 429 should fit with no problem, but can't say positively. They make a pipe crossmember motor mount kit for any motor. If I had a choice I"d stick a 454 Chevy in there, parts are cheaper but the purists would roll over in their graves.
Automatic transmission - good idea. I like mine.
Thompsons in Florida
The 302 has more power than a 289, plenty of room, and should be easy to hook up and work on. It will probably even look small sitting in there.
The 429 should fit with no problem, but can't say positively. They make a pipe crossmember motor mount kit for any motor. If I had a choice I"d stick a 454 Chevy in there, parts are cheaper but the purists would roll over in their graves.
Automatic transmission - good idea. I like mine.
Thompsons in Florida
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
You can put almost anything in '53 and up F100. They have a huge engine compartment. About the only problem is the crossmember under the bellhousing with some automatics depending on how you position the engine. I built a '56 with 351W ( okay I know it's not as big as a 429/460 but we're talking F100 here after all) and FMX auto and never had to cut or dent a thing, even left the bellhousing crossmember intact. Steering box clearance is usually okay on big motors. You can also use a stock front sump oil pan just fine, even though the stock truck pan is rear sump.
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I helped a friend put a 460/C6/9" in a 56 last year and it went in without a hitch. No store bought parts either.
Only problem is the awesome power, its hard to drive without going sideways half the time. Rear is a 3.25. His 460 was a 74 cop car so it didnt have all the smog junk; had the pre smog heads/cam/distributor/Holley.
The 429 is also a torque monster so consider how you will keep it going straight.
Only problem is the awesome power, its hard to drive without going sideways half the time. Rear is a 3.25. His 460 was a 74 cop car so it didnt have all the smog junk; had the pre smog heads/cam/distributor/Holley.
The 429 is also a torque monster so consider how you will keep it going straight.
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
Originally posted by STN01
Hey fellas, i havent been on the board in a while, because i bought a new car and hadnt looked much into stuff for my truck. But today while i was at work i ran into a guy that has a 66' with a 429 in it...i would put this engine in my truck but dont know if i want such a huge motor in it...seems like I would have to cut out a lot of stuff, to get it to fit. Anybody know if that is a fact?
Also he has a modded 302 that would deffinetly fit, are 302's good motors to put into these trucks, i currently still have the stock 292 in it, with my granny 4 speed.
No matter the engine i get, i think im gonna goto a automatic transmission...unless you guys thing otherwise, because this guy has some great deals on some good motors and transmissions. Get back to me. And thanks ahead of time for the help and the decisions. There are pics on here somewhere if you need to take a look at my truck...later
T.L.
Hey fellas, i havent been on the board in a while, because i bought a new car and hadnt looked much into stuff for my truck. But today while i was at work i ran into a guy that has a 66' with a 429 in it...i would put this engine in my truck but dont know if i want such a huge motor in it...seems like I would have to cut out a lot of stuff, to get it to fit. Anybody know if that is a fact?
Also he has a modded 302 that would deffinetly fit, are 302's good motors to put into these trucks, i currently still have the stock 292 in it, with my granny 4 speed.
No matter the engine i get, i think im gonna goto a automatic transmission...unless you guys thing otherwise, because this guy has some great deals on some good motors and transmissions. Get back to me. And thanks ahead of time for the help and the decisions. There are pics on here somewhere if you need to take a look at my truck...later
T.L.
In light of our earlier conversation, I'd opt for the modded 302. Easier fit all the way around. It's hard for me to pass on a 429, but in your case, I think you'll be happier in the long run with ol' reliable (cheaper parts, and easier to find parts for it, too).
How is it modified? Heads? Cam? and the usual weekend-Warrior bolt-ons? (headers, manifold/carb, ignition system)?
Daryl
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
Yeap, Ive seen quite a few noe with big motors in them they fit OK. One in particular was a 54 flareside. It had a 71 Mercury 428 in it. There was a tonne of room. However he did have a one piece tilt front on it.
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Either engine will motor you around town just fine. The 302 will be cheaper and possibly easier to install but either one should fit without any radical modifications. If you are looking for something that gets attention and provides massive torque, the 429 is hard to complete with.
Either engine will motor you around town just fine. The 302 will be cheaper and possibly easier to install but either one should fit without any radical modifications. If you are looking for something that gets attention and provides massive torque, the 429 is hard to complete with.
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
Originally posted by STN01
Hey fellas, i havent been on the board in a while, because i bought a new car and hadnt looked much into stuff for my truck. But today while i was at work i ran into a guy that has a 66' with a 429 in it...i would put this engine in my truck but dont know if i want such a huge motor in it...seems like I would have to cut out a lot of stuff, to get it to fit. Anybody know if that is a fact?
Also he has a modded 302 that would deffinetly fit, are 302's good motors to put into these trucks, i currently still have the stock 292 in it, with my granny 4 speed.
No matter the engine i get, i think im gonna goto a automatic transmission...unless you guys thing otherwise, because this guy has some great deals on some good motors and transmissions. Get back to me. And thanks ahead of time for the help and the decisions. There are pics on here somewhere if you need to take a look at my truck...later
T.L.
Hey fellas, i havent been on the board in a while, because i bought a new car and hadnt looked much into stuff for my truck. But today while i was at work i ran into a guy that has a 66' with a 429 in it...i would put this engine in my truck but dont know if i want such a huge motor in it...seems like I would have to cut out a lot of stuff, to get it to fit. Anybody know if that is a fact?
Also he has a modded 302 that would deffinetly fit, are 302's good motors to put into these trucks, i currently still have the stock 292 in it, with my granny 4 speed.
No matter the engine i get, i think im gonna goto a automatic transmission...unless you guys thing otherwise, because this guy has some great deals on some good motors and transmissions. Get back to me. And thanks ahead of time for the help and the decisions. There are pics on here somewhere if you need to take a look at my truck...later
T.L.
Option 2: 302/C4 or AOD with 3.50 gears ~ make sure brakes
can handle the modded motor!
Daryl
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
Originally posted by fatfenders
... the 429 is hard to complete with.
... the 429 is hard to complete with.
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Originally posted by Earl
"the 429 is hard to complete with."? Not to open a touchy subject but that looks suspiciously like a Freudian slip to me.
"the 429 is hard to complete with."? Not to open a touchy subject but that looks suspiciously like a Freudian slip to me.
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Here's my vote - 390 with a truck/auto bellhousing, the kind of bellhousing that bolts the the mounts under the cab. Use an FMX transmission. Cheap, strong, cool looking. This setup will use stock, mostly original Ford parts; column shifter linkage, gas pedal linkage, motor mounts. And there are some killer dress-up parts for a 390.
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Option 1: 429/C6 with 3.73 gears ~ better upgrade brakes too ! ;
Great for burnouts but not driving. With all of that torque even a 2.47 is feasible; it is also a common 429/460 rearend in the big cars.
I'm putting a 2.47 in my friends 56/460/C6 today.
Great for burnouts but not driving. With all of that torque even a 2.47 is feasible; it is also a common 429/460 rearend in the big cars.
I'm putting a 2.47 in my friends 56/460/C6 today.
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Originally posted by 286merc
Option 1: 429/C6 with 3.73 gears ~ better upgrade brakes too ! ;
Great for burnouts but not driving. With all of that torque even a 2.47 is feasible; it is also a common 429/460 rearend in the big cars.
I'm putting a 2.47 in my friends 56/460/C6 today.
Option 1: 429/C6 with 3.73 gears ~ better upgrade brakes too ! ;
Great for burnouts but not driving. With all of that torque even a 2.47 is feasible; it is also a common 429/460 rearend in the big cars.
I'm putting a 2.47 in my friends 56/460/C6 today.
Seriously though, if you don't have a bottomless wallet, the right gear set with a big block might get you fuel mpg you can live with. Wind up the cruise rpms on any big block and it will break the fuel budget every time.
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1959 F-100 engine comments?
Originally posted by 286merc
Option 1: 429/C6 with 3.73 gears ~ better upgrade brakes too ! ;
Great for burnouts but not driving. With all of that torque even a 2.47 is feasible; it is also a common 429/460 rearend in the big cars.
I'm putting a 2.47 in my friends 56/460/C6 today.
Option 1: 429/C6 with 3.73 gears ~ better upgrade brakes too ! ;
Great for burnouts but not driving. With all of that torque even a 2.47 is feasible; it is also a common 429/460 rearend in the big cars.
I'm putting a 2.47 in my friends 56/460/C6 today.
Well, once again I've been living with bad information I guess. I was lead to believe that with big torque you needed low gearing to handle the power? or is that just with race set-ups? I gues for daily drivers a milder set-up is the preferred option?
Always happy to learn something new; hope I didn't offend anyone with my input about the 3.73 gears/C6 with the 429... I was just going on what "I thought" I knew to be the right way to go. My bad....
Daryl
