Notices

Headers for a inline 6 ??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 12:40 PM
  #16  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
But say I got the efi exhaust manifold and got a new intake manifold would I be able to use my stock 1 barrel carb or do I have to change it to fuel injection In other words I already did my starter. And whats my best method. It's a stock engine. And just can't get the stock manifold s (exhaust. Intake) apart so I figured I cut them off and try to get to the bolts and unbolt them..
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 12:44 PM
  #17  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
They won't come apart till it comes off the truck. Watch ebay, you can find offy 4bbl manifolds cheap. do a search, and you will see a lot of options for a nice build.
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:29 PM
  #18  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
So if I order a new stock exhaust manifold and intake manifold can I get rid of my 1 barrel carb and say get a 2 barrel. No problems?
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 06:02 PM
  #19  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Yes, Look back at the last picture I posted, that's a holley 4bbl
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 10:39 PM
  #20  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
i did some more reasearch and im not going to get the headers. but im thinking of just getting another stock exhaust manifold and a stock intake manifold.. and i was curious if i would be able to get a larger carb with out any problems? any ideas.. and what about that egr tube that goes from the exhaust to the carb thing.. can anyone find those tubes..i looked at lmc truck
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2011 | 11:15 AM
  #21  
Yaga1973's Avatar
Yaga1973
Elder User - What???
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 714
Likes: 1
From: Moore, OK
Club FTE Silver Member

Hey ericford1984,

What is the goal for your truck? Are you just replacing leaking gaskets or are you trying to modify your truck for better performance/mileage?
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2011 | 05:24 PM
  #22  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by Yaga1973
Hey ericford1984,

What is the goal for your truck? Are you just replacing leaking gaskets or are you trying to modify your truck for better performance/mileage?


im looking to replace the intake and exhaust manifold gaskets..but i can tell it wont be easy. the top bolts that are accesible came out easy.. the ones inbetween the two are a little more difficult...i got the carb off and the bolts that look like it holds the intake and the exhaust together wont come undone..so i was thinking of replacing the exhaust and the intake manifold.. whats the best idea..and perhaps going with a bigger carb a 2 barrel? but could i use my 1 barrel for the time and put a 2 on ina few months i just want to do the right orering of parts and keep it easy and cheap not looking for performance but im just worried about that egr tube that goes from the exhaust to the intake..can i get replacements?
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2011 | 05:31 PM
  #23  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by Yaga1973
Hey ericford1984,

What is the goal for your truck? Are you just replacing leaking gaskets or are you trying to modify your truck for better performance/mileage?


im looking to replace the intake and exhaust manifold gaskets..but i can tell it wont be easy. the top bolts that are accesible came out easy.. the ones inbetween the two are a little more difficult...i got the carb off and the bolts that look like it holds the intake and the exhaust together wont come undone..so i was thinking of replacing the exhaust and the intake manifold.. whats the best idea..and perhaps going with a bigger carb a 2 barrel? but could i use my 1 barrel for the time and put a 2 on ina few months i just want to do the right orering of parts and keep it easy and cheap not looking for performance but im just worried about that egr tube that goes from the exhaust to the intake..can i get replacements?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Dec 5, 2011 | 05:37 PM
  #24  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by Yaga1973
Hey ericford1984,

What is the goal for your truck? Are you just replacing leaking gaskets or are you trying to modify your truck for better performance/mileage?


im looking to replace the intake and exhaust manifold gaskets..but i can tell it wont be easy. the top bolts that are accesible came out easy.. the ones inbetween the two are a little more difficult...i got the carb off and the bolts that look like it holds the intake and the exhaust together wont come undone..so i was thinking of replacing the exhaust and the intake manifold.. whats the best idea..and perhaps going with a bigger carb a 2 barrel? but could i use my 1 barrel for the time and put a 2 on ina few months i just want to do the right orering of parts and keep it easy and cheap not looking for performance but im just worried about that egr tube that goes from the exhaust to the intake..can i get replacements?
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2011 | 11:54 PM
  #25  
Yaga1973's Avatar
Yaga1973
Elder User - What???
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 714
Likes: 1
From: Moore, OK
Club FTE Silver Member

Hey Eric,

To begin with, you won't be able to mount any carb to the stock intake manifold other than the 1bbl it came with. So if you see yourself wanting to mount a bigger carb on your engine in the future, then the stock manifold isn't the ticket.

Like others have said, you will have to use an aftermarket intake such as an Offenhauser Dual Plenum or C (Open Plenum) or a Clifford Research intake. Note: There are plenty of threads on this subject in the Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L/300 forum discussing how to do this. You can also check out the FORDSIX Performance forum under the 240-300 "Big Block" Six performance category. If you decide to go with an aftermarket intake, you will have to decide what brand, type, and size of carb you want to use other than the stock carb because it will no longer work. The stock exhaust will be worthless at this point because it won't flow properly to match the aftermarket intake and carb, so you'll have to use a pair of the stock split EFI exhaust manifolds at a minimum.

Basically, you are at a crossroads. Either just stick with stock, or do all of your research on here and make informed decisions.

Regarding separating your EGR tube, you'll need to try and take it off the intake and exhaust manifold while on the truck because of leverage. You'll need to soak both end connectors with penetrating lubricant at least overnight and then tap on the fittings with a hammer to help the lubricant penetrate. You might have to do this a couple of times. If you can't gain access to the nuts on the tube while in the truck, take the intake/exhaust assembly out as one unit and work on the tube that way. It will come off but you will need a bit of patience - it has been together for a very long time and been through countless heating and cooling cycles.

I hope all of this has helped to some degree. If you have more questions, let us know.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:31 AM
  #26  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by Yaga1973
Hey Eric,

To begin with, you won't be able to mount any carb to the stock intake manifold other than the 1bbl it came with. So if you see yourself wanting to mount a bigger carb on your engine in the future, then the stock manifold isn't the ticket.

Like others have said, you will have to use an aftermarket intake such as an Offenhauser Dual Plenum or C (Open Plenum) or a Clifford Research intake. Note: There are plenty of threads on this subject in the Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L/300 forum discussing how to do this. You can also check out the FORDSIX Performance forum under the 240-300 "Big Block" Six performance category. If you decide to go with an aftermarket intake, you will have to decide what brand, type, and size of carb you want to use other than the stock carb because it will no longer work. The stock exhaust will be worthless at this point because it won't flow properly to match the aftermarket intake and carb, so you'll have to use a pair of the stock split EFI exhaust manifolds at a minimum.

Basically, you are at a crossroads. Either just stick with stock, or do all of your research on here and make informed decisions.

Regarding separating your EGR tube, you'll need to try and take it off the intake and exhaust manifold while on the truck because of leverage. You'll need to soak both end connectors with penetrating lubricant at least overnight and then tap on the fittings with a hammer to help the lubricant penetrate. You might have to do this a couple of times. If you can't gain access to the nuts on the tube while in the truck, take the intake/exhaust assembly out as one unit and work on the tube that way. It will come off but you will need a bit of patience - it has been together for a very long time and been through countless heating and cooling cycles.

I hope all of this has helped to some degree. If you have more questions, let us know.


Excellent thank you, one last question. Do you know what the pipe that connects the two deprecate manifolds to 1 outlet .. I think I'll do the new intake upgrade to a 2 barrel and you suggest separate efi manifolds? And if I do that I won't have to worry about the egr tube?
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 08:42 AM
  #27  
Yaga1973's Avatar
Yaga1973
Elder User - What???
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 714
Likes: 1
From: Moore, OK
Club FTE Silver Member

Hello Eric,

Sorry for the late reply, I was out of pocket yesterday.

Yes, I would use a pair of the EFI manifolds. They are all split design, like shorty headers, but since they are cast iron, they'll have a lot less tendancy to develop leaks. You'll need to either reuse and modify the stock Y-pipe to connect the two manifolds to your exhaust or you can use the aftermarket Walker Y-pipe people have been talking about. Just make sure to clean up the back weld on the Walker Y-pipe if you use it. Since you will be replacing both manifolds, you will no longer have EGR. Also, you will need to use some sort of method to heat your intake manifold as this is important because when atomized fuel hits a cold intake runner, it tends to puddle at the bottom of the intake. The best method, IMHO, is to use the heating plate found on Home Page .

Remember, you will also need to modify your throttle linkage no matter what carb you switch to. Do you have an automatic or a manual? This will make a difference as to what throttle modifications you will need to make.

It can seem like you have to make a lot of modifications to make the switch, but for the performance gains you'll see, it is all worth it. You can ask anyone on here and they will tell you that.

Talk to you soon,
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:26 AM
  #28  
ericford1984's Avatar
ericford1984
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by Yaga1973
Hello Eric,

Sorry for the late reply, I was out of pocket yesterday.

Yes, I would use a pair of the EFI manifolds. They are all split design, like shorty headers, but since they are cast iron, they'll have a lot less tendancy to develop leaks. You'll need to either reuse and modify the stock Y-pipe to connect the two manifolds to your exhaust or you can use the aftermarket Walker Y-pipe people have been talking about. Just make sure to clean up the back weld on the Walker Y-pipe if you use it. Since you will be replacing both manifolds, you will no longer have EGR. Also, you will need to use some sort of method to heat your intake manifold as this is important because when atomized fuel hits a cold intake runner, it tends to puddle at the bottom of the intake. The best method, IMHO, is to use the heating plate found on Home Page .

Remember, you will also need to modify your throttle linkage no matter what carb you switch to. Do you have an automatic or a manual? This will make a difference as to what throttle modifications you will need to make.

It can seem like you have to make a lot of modifications to make the switch, but for the performance gains you'll see, it is all worth it. You can ask anyone on here and they will tell you that.

Talk to you soon,
I have a manual, and when you say clean up the back weld? You mean plug the hole where the egr tube would be?
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:44 AM
  #29  
1986F150six's Avatar
1986F150six
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 6,477
Likes: 19
From: Sheffield, AL
When looking down into the rear pipe of the "Y" pipe, the hole, around which the rear pipe is welded, is poorly cut into the "collector" and needs opening up to get the best flow. Some people have reported using a hole saw while others have used a grinder.
 
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 01:50 PM
  #30  
minnesota-clint's Avatar
minnesota-clint
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Originally Posted by dustybumpers
You can still use the heat kit from Kevin, the bottom of the intake is the same
I'm new to FTE and have learned a ton from you all in a few days of reading. Unfortunately the old saying "if I only knew then what I know now" applies once again. After reading what has been said, I think I should go the efi manifold route as well. I took the block/head to machine shop and used a reseal kit (new gaskets and bearings). I'm doing is the durasparkII swap, my "honey" works at a parts store now, so her discount gets me "all new" except wiring harness but they don't offer the "Offy" intake so I'm keeping the factory intake. That leaves me with 2 questions.

1) who do I talk to about the "heat kit"
2) where might I be able to relieve myself of this hedman header I uneducatedly bought?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:59 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE