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Old 12-04-2011, 03:41 AM
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good morning missouri... well took me all day to pull the 24valves out of the head..do a little cleaning, drain all 6 gal. of oil from the oilpan (no water in the oil.. now i can pull it off..i think i will go ahead and pull the pistons since i have a set of new rings already might as well use them..would like to check the cylinders. just in case i cracked a sleeve or something weird like that... and yes there are 24 rod bolts in my 6 cyl...now i remember why i quit working on these engines...everything is so dang heavy
 
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Well I think I have a starter relay issue. Turn key lights on dummy dash lights light up then turn key and it all dies. I think I can hear the relay click before all goes dead. I have to disconnect battery then reconnect to get lights to come back on in truck...then same thing happens. I think this was happening right before I switched motors. Sounds like the relay? Thanks for your thoughts.

I think its called the starter solenoid not relay, sorry.
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:51 AM
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without being there to test things...kinnda sounds like a dead battery or shorted starter
 
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Originally Posted by whiskey runner
without being there to test things...kinnda sounds like a dead battery or shorted starter
I took the battery from my 84 monte ss and it was charged...
I just had the starter checked at oriellys and it was good.... But it,could be...
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:00 AM
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Yes it sounds like a "starter solenoid" or in my diagram its called a "starter relay" issue? The little round thing on the passenger side inner fenderwell. Has your positive batt cable hooked to fwd post, and the starter cable to the rear post.

And 2 small slip on 90 degree connectors One is "S" and one is "I" in the front/outside.
My diagram shows red/blue on the front terminal and brown on the rear one.

If you are going to the parts store to get one take your starter with you and get it tested, I watch them hook it up and test it.

The small square box behind it is the voltage regulator, is controls the charging of the batt system. So start with a new starter solenoid.

Double ck all you wiring connections and your battery cables for good connections and condition and the eng block ground connection.
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:02 AM
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What CCA is that car battery, you know you can get one that is fine for a honda 4 cyl but not enough CCA for our trucks. I would suggest at least a 650 or even higher, like a 700 to 850 should spin her right over.
 
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Whazzup Y'all!

Nodda here, looks/feels like a good day to hang out inside the house. Tim and I added a few more lights outside yesterday. Think I'm gonna keep indoors today, get a fire going and just lay around. Temp is only 36, nope not warm enough to play outside. Need to check with a buddy about a 9mm that I'm thinking about selling/trading him. I really want another 357, or even another 44 mag. I like pistols that go BOOM,
Hope everybody's doing well.

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Good morning fellow Missourians! My userprofile got fixed! Now I can converse and BS with the best on FTE. I was locked out for a few days and couldn't post at all.
Don't I remember from a long long time ago shorting across the solenoid to start my 72 to prove it was bad?
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:47 AM
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Hey border. You have a bad connection. That's all. Take the battery cables off and clean the terminals and cable ends with a wire brush. Then CLAMP THE CABLES ON TIGHTLY. Clean the connections at the starter and the solenoid. I GUARANTEE it'll crank after that. You don't need to buy any parts.
 
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Is it that 9mm ya got from me ? I want to at least shoot what ya trade for if its a large caliber.
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:25 PM
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yea some good suggestions...i would test a few things before i went out and started buying parts.. do like alan said and clean your battery posts and the connections on the starter relay.. if it still dont start turn the key on,take a old screwdriver and jump from the post from the battery to the small post next to it on the relay..should be a red and blue wire i think.. then if it starts you can look towards the ignition switch,or if it dont check the battery or starter...
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:31 PM
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opps forgot to say if bypassing the ing. switch dont work..try bypassing the solenoid altogether with a pair of pliers or something like that to see if it will crank
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:34 PM
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or take the cable going to the starter off the relay and hold it on the cable coming from the battery the starter should spin
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:37 PM
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Evening all! Certainly sounds like the starter relay could be bad - especially if it was doing the same thin on the other engine.

Looks like winter might rear its ugly head tonight - hope everyone else is ready - I'm nowhere near ready since I messed up the shoulder.
 
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:54 PM
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I got bored in the afternoon and went out to tinker with the Nova. For YEARS, it would run on when you shut the car off. (It wouldn't diesel, it would stay running normally for ten seconds after you turned the key off.) It finally aggravated me enough to fix it.

It turns out that the ignition was back feeding through my electric cooling fan. As long as the fan was spinning, the engine would stay running. As soon as the fan stopped turning, the engine would shut off. It was my own fault. I used high amperage wire and a switch, so I never wired it with a relay. Now it has a relay and it shuts off like it's supposed to.
 


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