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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Put everything back to oem stock and do all your scheduled maint. You won't have any more problems. Just my opinion.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006powerstroke90

Its not that often headgaskets will blow again with studs, unless they job was not done right.

Well that would depend on who you talk to. I know of at least one anti-stud person on the boards here.

I agree with you that it would depend on the install work. Which I have reason to suspect wasn't done right based on this line here:

Originally Posted by Scriv
So to begin 1yr and 10mos ago I blew the heads smooth off of my beloved 6.0
He made no mention that during the original fix that they checked (or didn't check the heads) the heads. That only could lend to the possibility of an install issue. Now if they did and it just wasn't mentioned then that's something else.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scriv
$7200+ later the truck is ready for pick up 'bullet proofed' with studs, and a home made EGR delete and two new heads.
He got new heads.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveBricks
He got new heads.
You right. I missed that the first go around. I really need to stop speed reading, it's not working for me.

Let's hope that they checked for the flatness of the gaskets when they installed everything. Even though they were new, I would still check.

I would go with the oil cooler first, check that out.

I had also forgot to add that an 03 turbo at best would gain you about 15 HP. There is a difference between the two, but not much in my book. Sound would be the biggest reason.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Okay, dumb thought of mine, but if he blew his heads clean off the truck, should they have checked the BLOCK for flatness/cracks and all to ensure a smooth fit?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006 powerstroke 90
Okay, dumb thought of mine, but if he blew his heads clean off the truck, should they have checked the BLOCK for flatness/cracks and all to ensure a smooth fit?

Theoretically, if the heads were blown clear off the engine block, the block itself would be toast due to no threads or badly stretched threads in the block.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ljutic ss
Theoretically, if the heads were blown clear off the engine block, the block itself would be toast due to no threads or badly stretched threads in the block.

So is it a possibility that the studs could have backed out some, and caused the headgaskets to blow again?

But should the block have been checked for flatness?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Scriv
Well thanks for the input guys, keep it coming!

If it wasn't gaskets what could it be, I have no EGR system at this time so I didn't even think there was another possibility. The shop that had installed everything for me actually gave me back half of my $7200 today saying they didn't want to be part of Ford's mistake anymore and that I should trade in my truck ASAP. The fact they would refund my money after this long makes me assume they know they did a poor job in the first place. If not why on earth wouldn't they try to fix it again or something. Is it possible the block needs to be checked for flatness as well or has anyone ever heard of something like that happening to a 6.0? I have no reservations yanking this thing apart but I want to know why it did it so it doesn't happen again.
EGR cooler would be under intake on passengers side if it's still there. If it is maybe they welded some plugs in it and now they are leaking. You could put a
pressure gauge on the degas bottle and see how it's acting, but i think the only way to know for sure is a compression/cylinder leak down test. Another possibility is if they didn't send the heads out to a machine shop they missed a crack, or they weren't straight. I can't think of another reason it's acting that way.
When the shop gave you some cash back I think they were admitting defeat. Maybe not that they did a crappy job, just they don't want to work on it anymore. Hate they had to trash talk the 6.0 on your way out though.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Well that would depend on who you talk to. I know of at least one anti-stud person on the boards here.
UM, Who, WHAZZAT?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Hey Scriv, is that the deal, the heads are blown loose/off the block? As in no longer connected?
Us old guys have trouble understanding you kids sometimes!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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UM, Who, WHAZZAT?
Don't worry, don't think you know him.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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1-sounds like they just did a poor job reparing? = yes
2- actually gave me back half of my $7200 today saying they didn't want to be part of Ford's mistake anymore and that I should trade in my truck ASAP. = they dont not crap about it that why?

also if u have u truck paid = go and fix u self well if u can lift the truck i can help
i do my self in 2009 here is a pic
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ictureid=41154
 
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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Ok I embellished a little bit with my 'blown smooth off' line. There was nothing spectacular about the first go around, pulling a loaded cargo trailer up a decent hill it just let go, loud pop, exhaust went to bellowing white smoke and absolutely no power. They did check the old heads, I knew the shop they took them to and I talked to them when the mechanic dropped them off to ensure they were actually cracked or warped beyond repair, and they did install two new heads. What their process was I'll never know but if I had to bet it's pull out of the box and slap onto the truck. I would be impressed if they even followed the proper torque procedure.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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Ok I embellished a little bit with my 'blown smooth off' line. There was nothing spectacular about the first go around, pulling a loaded cargo trailer up a decent hill it just let go, loud pop, exhaust went to bellowing white smoke and absolutely no power. They did check the old heads, I knew the shop they took them to and I talked to them when the mechanic dropped them off to ensure they were actually cracked or warped beyond repair, and they did install two new heads. What their process was I'll never know but if I had to bet it's pull out of the box and slap onto the truck. I would be impressed if they even followed the proper torque procedure.
Did they offer to give you the old heads back?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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How 'bout trying a new resevoir cap? Maybe the one you got isn't maintaining system pressure.
 
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