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Old 11-05-2011, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCamping
...11500 is much better than my 8800 f250
Mine--6.7 F350 4x4 SRW Supercab shortbed--is 11,400.

Some points to consider:

1. Maybe the only actual differences are the spring height and the brakes, but the the result is that the F350 SRWs have higher GVWRs than the F250s by anywhere from 1400 to 1700 lbs.

2. You have to consider the curb weights too. Trucks have gotten a lot heavier over the past twenty years. The curb (unladen) weight of my '89 F350 SRW standard cab is 5200 lbs, with a GVWR of 9000 lbs., which translates into a load capacity of 3800 lbs. My '11 F350 curb weight is 7200 lbs, with a GVWR of 11,400 lbs, therefore a load capacity of 4200 lbs. Not much difference, even though the GVWRs differ by 2400 lbs.

3. After having driven F350s for over 20 years, I went "down" to an '05 F250, figuring there wouldn't be much difference. Boy, was I wrong. I was constantly overloading, or on the edge of overloading, the F250 (which was supposed to have a load capacity of about 3000 lbs. based on the curb weight vs GVWR). So I went back up to the F350 last year. "Problem" solved.


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Originally Posted by FourOneTons
Mine--6.7 F350 4x4 SRW Supercab shortbed--is 11,400.

Some points to consider:

1. Maybe the only actual differences are the spring height and the brakes, but the the result is that the F350 SRWs have higher GVWRs than the F250s by anywhere from 1400 to 1700 lbs.

2. You have to consider the curb weights too. Trucks have gotten a lot heavier over the past twenty years. The curb (unladen) weight of my '89 F350 SRW standard cab is 5200 lbs, with a GVWR of 9000 lbs., which translates into a load capacity of 3800 lbs. My '11 F350 curb weight is 7200 lbs, with a GVWR of 11,400 lbs, therefore a load capacity of 4200 lbs. Not much difference, even though the GVWRs differ by 2400 lbs.

3. After having driven F350s for over 20 years, I went "down" to an '05 F250, figuring there wouldn't be much difference. Boy, was I wrong. I was constantly overloading, or on the edge of overloading, the F250 (which was supposed to have a load capacity of about 3000 lbs. based on the curb weight vs GVWR). So I went back up to the F350 last year. "Problem" solved.


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Joe, have you weighed your truck? Pretty confident it weighs a LOT more than 7,200 lbs! I've never seen one weigh in under 8,000 lbs...

I saw a CC 4x4 LB 6.2L gas F350 weigh in at a hair under 8,000 lbs back in July. Your diesel engine weighs more than his gasser.

I don't have a good weight ticket for either of my diesel trucks empty, but here's one with an unloaded 3,500 lb trailer on the back of my 2008 F250. Assuming 400 lbs tongue weight and another 200 for myself and stuff in the cab I was over 8,100 lbs empty!

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Joe, have you weighed your truck? Pretty confident it weighs a LOT more than 7,200 lbs! I've never seen one weigh in under 8,000 lbs...

I saw a CC 4x4 LB 6.2L gas F350 weigh in at a hair under 8,000 lbs back in July. Your diesel engine weighs more than his gasser...
Yes, Tom, I've weighed several times, with and without loads.

My unladen weight tag, done when truck was new, with all fluids topped-off, but no cargo/accessories/driver is 7189 lbs. The supercab is considerably lighter than the crewcab--a good foot-plus less of sheet metal, frame, etc., plus I think, an even smaller @#$#@ fuel tank than the crew cab. 26 GL vs 37.5 GL? So that's about 100 lbs less (including fuel) by itself. Then drop some more for the SB vs the LB.

As it stands today, with full fluids, bedliner, topper, driver, and the toolbox I usually carry, it's about 7800 lbs.

By comparison, the unladen weight of my '05 F250 SC SB 6.0 4x4--basically almost the same size truck--was somewhere between 6700 and 6800 lbs (file for that truck isn't at hand anymore), so the 6.7 must weigh a few hundred lbs more than the 6.0.


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Great info ya'll. Weight my rig a few weeks ago and came in just over 7000lbs. With nothing loaded. Having a GVWR of 8800 ... we'll you know what I'm dealing with.

When the time comes it will be an F350. Can't have enough truck.
 
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
Originally HydroBoost brakes were on diesel trucks because there is no manifold vacuum to power a brake booster. I guess in recent years they decided it was cheaper to mount a vacuum pump.
originally,only the F-Superduty (known as F450's since '99) had hydroboost.
to get it on the f250/350,you had to add it yourself (simple direct bolt on swap.i did it to mine.)
the original diesel f250/350 trucks (6.9/7.3l pre-powerstroke 1983- first half of 1994) had vacuum pumps.
the difference is night and day.all the heavy diesel trucks made today f250+ should come from the factory with it.ford shouldn't be screwing around with vacuum assist anymore on these trucks.it's a shame to hear,and just dangerous imho.
 
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Originally Posted by FourOneTons
Yes, Tom, I've weighed several times, with and without loads.

My unladen weight tag, done when truck was new, with all fluids topped-off, but no cargo/accessories/driver is 7189 lbs. The supercab is considerably lighter than the crewcab--a good foot-plus less of sheet metal, frame, etc., plus I think, an even smaller @#$#@ fuel tank than the crew cab. 26 GL vs 37.5 GL? So that's about 100 lbs less (including fuel) by itself. Then drop some more for the SB vs the LB.

As it stands today, with full fluids, bedliner, topper, driver, and the toolbox I usually carry, it's about 7800 lbs.

By comparison, the unladen weight of my '05 F250 SC SB 6.0 4x4--basically almost the same size truck--was somewhere between 6700 and 6800 lbs (file for that truck isn't at hand anymore), so the 6.7 must weigh a few hundred lbs more than the 6.0.


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Very interesting, Joe. I never knew that the SC trucks were that much lighter! I stand corrected!

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originally,only the F-Superduty (known as F450's since '99) had hydroboost.
to get it on the f250/350,you had to add it yourself (simple direct bolt on swap.i did it to mine.)
the original diesel f250/350 trucks (6.9/7.3l pre-powerstroke 1983- first half of 1994) had vacuum pumps.
I believe it, but I was referring to the first diesel pickups available. Back in '05 I was trying to figure out the '95 M1008 CUCV our unit had at the time. It was an '85 GMC 1 1/4 ton pickup with the lousy 6.2L GM diesel lump. The TM referred to the hydroboost brakes, and when I looked further it was mentioned that they used hydroboost brakes because diesel engines have no manifold vacuum to power a brake booster.

Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
the difference is night and day.all the heavy diesel trucks made today f250+ should come from the factory with it.ford shouldn't be screwing around with vacuum assist anymore on these trucks.it's a shame to hear,and just dangerous imho.
You've obviously never driven one. As I stated before the vacuum assist system that the gas truck I drove used was capable of locking all 4 wheels loaded to capacity. It doesn't matter how much clamping power you have, the fastest a vehicle can EVER stop is right at the threshold before the wheels lock. Meaning that there is no situation where the hydroboost system can stop any faster than a truck factory equipped with vacuum-assist brakes.

Drive one, and then come back here and tell us how "dangerous" it is.
 
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good point.im sure the newer setups must be loads better than the old days of my trucks era.didn't know how bad the setup really was until i swapped to hydro on this old gal.im sure your right.times have changed.
 
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yeah just got rid of my 97 F350 PSD which had 8800gvwr, 11' F350 PSD has 11500 with Camper and tow pkg. and 18" Michelins, Bill of origin gave wet delivered weight of 6909 lbs, I have not weighed it yet. I will say my old truck rode like **** empty and so does the new one, but If I wanted the ride of a soccor mom car i'd a bought a half ton. just got a 9' fisher X-Blade, building a head ache rack system for the bed and ordered a Anthony lift gate. to save my skeleton. after that she'll get a load of firewood ballast for the winter. oh yeah line-x bed coat too, really diggin that!!
 
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