Notices
1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis Econolines. E150, E250, E350, E450 and E550

Big front bumper improves MPG

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 30, 2011 | 10:41 PM
  #1  
Low and Mean's Avatar
Low and Mean
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Big front bumper improves MPG

Hey guys we just built this new 19" front bumper with a 5" rubber skirt. This big bumper has already improved our gas mileage around town 1/2 to 1 mpg. I'm not sure why but I'm guessing from air getting under the truck and causing drag. What do you guys think?

 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2011 | 10:43 PM
  #2  
Low and Mean's Avatar
Low and Mean
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
The old bumper
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2011 | 11:00 PM
  #3  
jimbbski's Avatar
jimbbski
Elder User
15 Year Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 666
Likes: 0
From: Chicago area
That looks good. Yes that bumper will help MPG's. I added a 6 inch air dam below my '88 E250's bumper and saw a slight improvement in MPG's plus the van was more stable at highway speeds on windy days. I may go ahead and look at ways to make a bigger(lower) one now.
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2011 | 11:21 PM
  #4  
Low and Mean's Avatar
Low and Mean
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
We can make more if someone is interested.
Sales@lowandmean.com
928-255-0230
LM
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 12:41 AM
  #5  
86scotty's Avatar
86scotty
Senior User
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 366
Likes: 1
From: the old home place
neat, looks good with black wheels and with the wide stance on a cube van, but i'm guessin it would look pretty strange on a single rear wheel van. Have you done one yet?
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 04:31 AM
  #6  
carrfamilynj's Avatar
carrfamilynj
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 302
Likes: 1
From: Near Atlantic City, NJ
Your name wouldn't happen to be Mad Max would it?
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 05:27 AM
  #7  
SilverE350's Avatar
SilverE350
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 417
Likes: 0
The side skirts likely have as much to do with MPG improvements as the front air dam does. Now you need to make a tail section to minimize rear drag.
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 09:43 AM
  #8  
Bbasso's Avatar
Bbasso
Elder User
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 635
Likes: 1
From: infraction
Absolutely makes sense. the underside of most vehicles are far from smooth, if the air is passed over the top/sides then it reduces the drag and improves performance in a few ways.
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 10:19 AM
  #9  
redtanrt10's Avatar
redtanrt10
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Looks great, nice work! A lot of 18 wheeler's are using the side skirts on their trailers to improve MPG and stability. Air dam has to be a good help too. I think you'll see your highway mpg increase a higher % than what you've seen in town. Mike
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 04:26 PM
  #10  
Rico47635's Avatar
Rico47635
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 884
Likes: 0
From: Rockport, IN
I don't know. I don't really care for the way it looks. I don't care if someone else does that, but I wouldn't do that to a van or anything else. I doubt the 1MPG would result in enough savings to justify the cost.
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 06:37 PM
  #11  
YoGeorge's Avatar
YoGeorge
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,512
Likes: 18
From: Detroit
Well yeah, look at NASCAR cars; underbody turbulence on vans and trucks is pretty bad (no smooth belly pan here) so I'm sure it would help measurably to run a low skirt like that on the front. There was a guy on some forum that got his Ford Explorer up to 30 mpg using a low skirt like that in front. But here in Michigan, I'd be plowing a lot of snow in the winter with that, and scraping it on steep driveways.

Yours looks pretty cool, though, especially considering the business connection. Low and Mean indeed!
George
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2011 | 09:30 PM
  #12  
Club Wagon's Avatar
Club Wagon
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,351
Likes: 8
Suspect the Break Even Point might be way out there. Even for interstate cruisers. Would think speeds under 60 MPH see aerodynamic benefits drop off sharply.

What I frequently encounter driving also suggests a short life due to inevitable road bed collisions. Would give the even lower 'skirt' under the door less than a week on my rounds. And that's IF the truck was parked out on the road & I walked the last 1/2 mile. No way on Earth that would make it on my jungle driveway. Afraid the big old trees put down roots that are Lower & Meaner.

Guessing vehicle has Low Rider air suspension?


Am curious IF extensive dam & skirts help or hinder air flow thru radiator & tunnel?

Doubt the spikes on front hubs would pass any state inspection?

Always liked being able to slide under an Econoline. Took running boards off Club Wagon the day after I got it, b/c I had to jack it up, to get under, to inspect exhaust problem.
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2011 | 06:59 AM
  #13  
shorebird's Avatar
shorebird
Hotshot
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 11,537
Likes: 27
From: Long Beach, Ms.
As part of the company image the dam/skirt work well.
As to the real world I do hope that 5" skirt is enough.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 04:53 PM
  #14  
jimbbski's Avatar
jimbbski
Elder User
15 Year Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 666
Likes: 0
From: Chicago area
[quote=Club Wagon;10985166]
Am curious IF extensive dam & skirts help or hinder air flow thru radiator & tunnel?
quote]

The air dam and skirts would keep air out from under the vehicle creating a low pressure area. The air passing through the radiator will have an easier time to exit the engine compartment by exhausting into this low pressure area. More air through the radiator results in a cooler running engine.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:23 PM
  #15  
shorebird's Avatar
shorebird
Hotshot
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 11,537
Likes: 27
From: Long Beach, Ms.
Airdams work.
A simple example is NASCAR.

 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:57 AM.