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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 11:29 PM
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E4OD HELP

I am not really sure whats wrong with my transmission its a 90 model E4OD and it doesnt go in third gear just straight to fourth. i let a family member borrow it one day and supposedly they turned right and it just died.. i went to check it out and it had no fire and no power to the fuel pump replaced the ecm and the fuel pump relay and this other relay that controls fire and then i found out it wouldnt go into 3rd gear anymore have no idea what it could be.. any help will be greatly appreciated
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 11:35 PM
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Did you replace the computer with the same calibration code? If not this "may" be your problem since the E4OD is completely computer controlled..
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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my bad i replaced the ignition control module and i tried putting another computer in it but ended up putting the old one in there to get it started up
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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you think this could be the overdrive relay??
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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It could be any sensor on the motor or trans. The motor has to run good for the CPU to tell the trans to shift. Check your motor codes and fix the issues. Trans will most likely be fine once you do.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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It could be any sensor on the motor or trans. The motor has to run good for the CPU to tell the trans to shift. Check your motor codes and fix the issues. Trans will most likely be fine once you do.

well the motor runs good now but there still could be a bad sensor i dont know about.. but where can i get all the codes read??
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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After it shifts to 4th, press the O/D cancel button and see if you get 3rd. If you do, then you have a sprag clutch given up, needing a rebuild.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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After it shifts to 4th, press the O/D cancel button and see if you get 3rd. If you do, then you have a sprag clutch given up, needing a rebuild.

if it gets to fourth and i push the button it doesnt do anything
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mudbogger93
if it gets to fourth and i push the button it doesnt do anything
E4OD is a 3 speed with OD. OD is the 4th gear.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 86F150302
E4OD is a 3 speed with OD. OD is the 4th gear.

well is there any way a electrical problem could cause third gear not to engage
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mudbogger93
well is there any way a electrical problem could cause third gear not to engage
Use the search to find a How to do self test. Follow the directions and post back the codes. This is not guess what part is broken month. If I felt up to it, I could get you to buy a few sensors just to see if you will... I dont play that guess game with others trucks. Get the codes lets fix it right. The trans tosses codes too, its not just for the motor.. There is no reason to guess unless your CPU is messed up and not getting the codes.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mjp_t98
After it shifts to 4th, press the O/D cancel button and see if you get 3rd. If you do, then you have a sprag clutch given up, needing a rebuild.


How do u figure a "sprag" is going out by electronically taking is out of 4th (od) gear?

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHNSHO
How do u figure a "sprag" is going out by electronically taking is out of 4th (od) gear?

John
First of all I suspected it when it happened to me, and the transmission overhaul confirmed it.

Most automatics including the E4OD do not give engine braking in the gears lower than top when the selector is in Drive (OD if you like). If you manually select that gear, then you WILL get engine braking.

This means that gears 1, 2, and 3 have overrun or "sprag" clutches for the freewheel action, backed up by clutches or bands for when the freewheeling is not wanted.

If you press the O/D cancel switch with the selector in OD, and the speed is above the 2-3 upshift speed then you get a manual selection of 3rd with the Coast Clutch eliminating the freewheeling. With no OD Cancel, a sprag provides the drive and allows freewheeling (assuming its working)
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mjp_t98
First of all I suspected it when it happened to me, and the transmission overhaul confirmed it.

Most automatics including the E4OD do not give engine braking in the gears lower than top when the selector is in Drive (OD if you like). If you manually select that gear, then you WILL get engine braking.

This means that gears 1, 2, and 3 have overrun or "sprag" clutches for the freewheel action, backed up by clutches or bands for when the freewheeling is not wanted.

If you press the O/D cancel switch with the selector in OD, and the speed is above the 2-3 upshift speed then you get a manual selection of 3rd with the Coast Clutch eliminating the freewheeling. With no OD Cancel, a sprag provides the drive and allows freewheeling (assuming its working)
So your saying if I hit the OD button while in OD I should _+Not +_ get 3rd gear ? All three of the E40D's I have owned would give me 3rd if I cancel OD with it engaged. Only one that wont is my current with an broken wire. For that one I have to pull the lever like its coming out of park lol ... then it works too. I have yet to have an E40D fail so I dont know if this is right or not. But, they all have done it for tens of thousands of miles.

One way or the other this guy needs to pull his codes before a net tuner diagnoses a trans that needs a rebuild. Even the trans shops start by pulling codes after half listening to how you tell them its working. Then they pull it apart and tell you what really happened.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:16 AM
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i was just simply asking if anyone had any problems like this before i take it to a transmission shop so chill
 
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