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I found an 06 F350 XLT Lariat with a blown 6.0 in it. Dealer is willing to sell it as is for about 19k - I've got an 00 w/ a 7.3 F250 in it that the body is getting tired on it.
Is a 6.0 to 7.3 swap possible - I can't think of anything that'd stop me considering the 00 is complete. Figure I'd move just about everything engine related over to the 06. We contemplated doing this a while back but chickened out at the last minute.
We did successfully swap a early 6.0 (04) for a 7.3 a couple years ago but that situation was different as the cab had been destroyed on that one so we put a cab and entire front clip from an 00 on it. Only thing kept from the 04 was the frame, bed, fuel-tank and rear axle. The front of the 04 was basically gone.
Is a 6.0 to 7.3 swap possible - I can't think of anything that'd stop me considering the 00 is complete. Figure I'd move just about everything engine related over to the 06. We contemplated doing this a while back but chickened out at the last minute.
We did successfully swap a early 6.0 (04) for a 7.3 a couple years ago but that situation was different as the cab had been destroyed on that one so we put a cab and entire front clip from an 00 on it. Only thing kept from the 04 was the frame, bed, fuel-tank and rear axle. The front of the 04 was basically gone.
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What I'm wondering is will the 7.3 fit into the 06 frame w/o too much hassle - somewhere after 05 (I think) ford made changes to the front end (went to coil vs leafs and a few other things too) and frame which could complicate things when fitting the 7.3 in. Most of the rest I'm not too worried about - I'm going to get them to put it on a lift for me tonight so I can get a good look at the frame. When we did the 04 it was pretty easy BUT this time would be different as we'd keep as much of the 06 as we possibly can.
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I can work on the price - the 19k was the asking price. They've already said they'd come down to 14.5k but I doubt they'd go much lower. They are asking the 19 based on the cost of putting a new engine (short block) in it. I said I'd take it as is - and the sales guy said he needed to speak w the owner 1st which is why I'm going back later today.
This truck was traded for a new 6.7 - think the prev owner had lots of issues with it and the dealer "made a deal" with the owner. Don't know the whole story but the records show that he was the 3rd owner for this truck and it looks like it was originally bought back from the 1st owner according to the ppw on it. 1st owner only had it 4months. Then next owner had it a year - the remainder was w/ the 3rd owner.
This truck was traded for a new 6.7 - think the prev owner had lots of issues with it and the dealer "made a deal" with the owner. Don't know the whole story but the records show that he was the 3rd owner for this truck and it looks like it was originally bought back from the 1st owner according to the ppw on it. 1st owner only had it 4months. Then next owner had it a year - the remainder was w/ the 3rd owner.
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just curious
What is it about the 05-07 style, suspension..etc, that you can not do to the 2000, that seems plausable, for a heckofalot less then the 14k? C-list has stock suspension, axles..etc, for those years, all over the place.
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Nothing really - just want to retain the 7.3L engine w/o having the 10 year old frame & body. 10 years of hard work hasn't been kind to most of our trucks but we're scared to death of the 6.X series. At some point we'll have to bite the bullet and move on from the 7.3 but doing this may push it off a few years - same reason we did the 04. New body/frame to replace one that was shot. We have 8 SD's and just had to pull the engine from one to replace a cracked piston due to a missing cooling jet. (Another thread) and figured HEY why put a freshly overhauled engine back into a tired 10yr old body/chassis.
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With a blown motor, I'd think it would be more like $7-$8,000..
No way I'd spend $19,000 on it.
No way I'd spend $19,000 on it.
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They weren't intending to sell it that way - I offered to buy it as is. The price they quoted incl's a new 6.0 short block. (Installed)
All a mute point now as the dealer's owner said no to the deal. I'm guessing they have more money in this truck than they are willing to admit.
Back to my original question: Is putting a 7.3 into a newer SD even possible?
Electrical issues aside - would the engine/trans/transfer case fit?
I've looked an 06 over and as far as I can tell the 7.3 would fit. I'm just worried that I'm not thinking of something that make it not work. Especially if I get one with a dead 6.0 the swap has to work or I'd have an expensive garage queen.
Figure I can find a 06-07 in decent shape running or not wouldn't matter. Good engine sell on e-bay junk engine sell the parts on e-bay.
All a mute point now as the dealer's owner said no to the deal. I'm guessing they have more money in this truck than they are willing to admit.
Back to my original question: Is putting a 7.3 into a newer SD even possible?
Electrical issues aside - would the engine/trans/transfer case fit?
I've looked an 06 over and as far as I can tell the 7.3 would fit. I'm just worried that I'm not thinking of something that make it not work. Especially if I get one with a dead 6.0 the swap has to work or I'd have an expensive garage queen.
Figure I can find a 06-07 in decent shape running or not wouldn't matter. Good engine sell on e-bay junk engine sell the parts on e-bay.
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Not to be a stick in the mud, but like posted above, you could get a decent running 6.0 for less than $14.5k, I would go that route. drive it till it blows up. If your not in love with the 6.0 by then, drop your 7.3 into it.
I'm not at all scared to trust a 6.0 after some long talks with Brian at BTS, he drives a 6.0
, and he can bullet proof it.
Just my .02
I'm not at all scared to trust a 6.0 after some long talks with Brian at BTS, he drives a 6.0
, and he can bullet proof it. Just my .02
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That's what makes this tough - we've gotten to know the 7.3 really well and introducing a 6.0 is a risky decision. We had an early 6.0 a few years back but sold it due to issues. That has made us skeptical of all of 'em. Right now I have a freshly overhauled 7.3 that I either put back into a tired 10 year old chassis and hope it holds together or I find something newer to put it into. I saw this 06 as a "newer" option than what we have now. The frame is ok (some rust but not excessive) on the 01 the 7.3 came out of but the cab, bed & interior need serious help. Door bottoms are rusted, seat covers are shot. By the time we fix it all up we'd be in the hole 7-8 grand easy. (Flatbed, new cab paint, new seat covers, doors, etc)
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I know what you mean, I'm still learning the 7.3 and would hate to start all over again with a 6.0...But, you could always sell the 7.3 motor and part out the truck, buy a running 6.0, Then use the cash from the 7.3 to bullet proof a 6.0.
I'm just throwing options out there. The 7.3 swap would work, the only PITA thing that comes to mind would be the wiring/dash. Other than that Its just swapping parts.
Good luck with your decision.
I'm just throwing options out there. The 7.3 swap would work, the only PITA thing that comes to mind would be the wiring/dash. Other than that Its just swapping parts.
Good luck with your decision.
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Local wrecker called this morning he's located an 07 that's being parted out - totalled w front end damage. We're going to get the doors, seats and bed from it and drop them into the 01. While its all apart we're going to paint the frame & axles w rust-bullet, ditto for the underside of the cab since its off the frame right now. This'll be less of a project than trying to figure out how to get a 7.3 to play in a newer chassis. The wreck the 07 was in must have been bad - bent the frame and pushed the rad into the engine! But it shows how well these trucks hold up when wrecked - from the firewall back it doesn't have a scratch on it!
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