DFCM draining
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10-16-2011, 09:57 PM
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DFCM draining
I started draining the DFCM myself as suggested on the forum (and the manual). My question is how much fluid are you guys getting when draining? Looks to be all diesel, but a lot more than I was expecting. I got about 32 oz. from the draining...I think it was done.
I apologize for the repeat post, as I'm sure it's been covered before...just couldn't find it if so.
I appreciate the input.
Mark
I apologize for the repeat post, as I'm sure it's been covered before...just couldn't find it if so.
I appreciate the input.
Mark
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Yeah, based on my experience yesterday, 25 secs is about 12 oz worth! Haha! For some reason I was thinking the DFCM was closed off when the vehicle wasn't running, and I was supposed to completely drain it. It's my first diesel, so learning all I can...I really appreciate all the insight given on the forum!! Need to get me a mason jar or two.
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10-17-2011, 10:38 AM
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10-17-2011, 11:00 AM
If you have a full tank it will siphon from the tank and keep on draining.
I tested that when I was changing the fuel filter. Opened up the valve and let it run. I got well over a gallon and it wasn't slowing down one bit.
If you turn the bowl out 3 full turns, the siphoning stops. That was posted here somewhere from a shop manual; it doesn't say this in the Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement as far as I can tell.
I tested that as well and it works. Draining stopped shortly after that.
I tested that when I was changing the fuel filter. Opened up the valve and let it run. I got well over a gallon and it wasn't slowing down one bit.
If you turn the bowl out 3 full turns, the siphoning stops. That was posted here somewhere from a shop manual; it doesn't say this in the Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement as far as I can tell.
I tested that as well and it works. Draining stopped shortly after that.
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10-17-2011, 11:47 AM
If you have a full tank it will siphon from the tank and keep on draining.
I tested that when I was changing the fuel filter. Opened up the valve and let it run. I got well over a gallon and it wasn't slowing down one bit.
If you turn the bowl out 3 full turns, the siphoning stops. That was posted here somewhere from a shop manual; it doesn't say this in the Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement as far as I can tell.
I tested that as well and it works. Draining stopped shortly after that.
I tested that when I was changing the fuel filter. Opened up the valve and let it run. I got well over a gallon and it wasn't slowing down one bit.
If you turn the bowl out 3 full turns, the siphoning stops. That was posted here somewhere from a shop manual; it doesn't say this in the Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement as far as I can tell.
I tested that as well and it works. Draining stopped shortly after that.
Good to know !
I am getting ready to do my first filter/seperator change and I need to drain it completely.
#10
10-17-2011, 06:55 PM
If you have a full tank it will siphon from the tank and keep on draining.
I tested that when I was changing the fuel filter. Opened up the valve and let it run. I got well over a gallon and it wasn't slowing down one bit.
If you turn the bowl out 3 full turns, the siphoning stops. That was posted here somewhere from a shop manual; it doesn't say this in the Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement as far as I can tell.
I tested that as well and it works. Draining stopped shortly after that.
I tested that when I was changing the fuel filter. Opened up the valve and let it run. I got well over a gallon and it wasn't slowing down one bit.
If you turn the bowl out 3 full turns, the siphoning stops. That was posted here somewhere from a shop manual; it doesn't say this in the Owner's Manual Diesel Supplement as far as I can tell.
I tested that as well and it works. Draining stopped shortly after that.
I gave up after awhile and removed the bowl full of fuel.
Lost at least a gallon of fuel with that experiment.
Then Epic comes along and reports to turn the bowl 3 1/2 turns to trip a sensor.
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10-17-2011, 07:20 PM
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Yes, but that was only AFTER doing the same thing you guys did. I drained about 10 minutes worth and decided to just close the valve and take off the bowl. That's when I dumped a good amount of fuel on the floor and camera. The bowl of course was completely full. I can't remember who it was who said to unscrew the bowl three turns but I was happy to append to the video with that little tid bit.
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10-18-2011, 03:55 PM
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10-18-2011, 04:44 PM
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This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 4:
The DFCM should be drained at regular intervals or when indicated by the message center message and water in fuel indicator light.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 38:
Water should be drained from the module assembly whenever the warning light comes on and the message center directs you to drain the water separator. This will occur when approximately 0.32 pints (150 ml) of water accumulates in the module. If water level is allowed to exceed this level, the water may be passed through to the engine and may cause fuel injection equipment damage.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 71:
Maximum Fuel Filter Change Interval:
❑ Normal schedule: 22,500 miles (36,000 km) or as indicated by the message center (whichever comes first)
❑ Special operating conditions: 15,000 miles (24,000 km) or 600 engine hours; see appropriate schedule Scheduled Maintenance Guide
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 72:
Check Every Month
❑ Fuel filter/water separator; drain if necessary
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Personally I'm on the drain and check for water once a month plan and sometimes even more often than once per month since it is dead simple. I use a small glass mason jar which is about 20 oz maybe (clean and dry) and drain for 25 seconds like it says in the book.
If no water, I put the fuel back in the tank which as been the case every single time so far.
I've decided on 15,000 miles change schedule and just did it the other weekend for first time.
Also, you sort of have to laugh at some of this. Like "drain if necessary". How are you supposed to know if you should drain if necessary without draining it? Maybe that means wait for the light, but on page 4 it says check on regular interval. And round and round you go.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 4:
The DFCM should be drained at regular intervals or when indicated by the message center message and water in fuel indicator light.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 38:
Water should be drained from the module assembly whenever the warning light comes on and the message center directs you to drain the water separator. This will occur when approximately 0.32 pints (150 ml) of water accumulates in the module. If water level is allowed to exceed this level, the water may be passed through to the engine and may cause fuel injection equipment damage.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 71:
Maximum Fuel Filter Change Interval:
❑ Normal schedule: 22,500 miles (36,000 km) or as indicated by the message center (whichever comes first)
❑ Special operating conditions: 15,000 miles (24,000 km) or 600 engine hours; see appropriate schedule Scheduled Maintenance Guide
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 72:
Check Every Month
❑ Fuel filter/water separator; drain if necessary
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Personally I'm on the drain and check for water once a month plan and sometimes even more often than once per month since it is dead simple. I use a small glass mason jar which is about 20 oz maybe (clean and dry) and drain for 25 seconds like it says in the book.
If no water, I put the fuel back in the tank which as been the case every single time so far.
I've decided on 15,000 miles change schedule and just did it the other weekend for first time.
Also, you sort of have to laugh at some of this. Like "drain if necessary". How are you supposed to know if you should drain if necessary without draining it? Maybe that means wait for the light, but on page 4 it says check on regular interval. And round and round you go.
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10-18-2011, 05:53 PM
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This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 4:
The DFCM should be drained at regular intervals or when indicated by the message center message and water in fuel indicator light.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 38:
Water should be drained from the module assembly whenever the warning light comes on and the message center directs you to drain the water separator. This will occur when approximately 0.32 pints (150 ml) of water accumulates in the module. If water level is allowed to exceed this level, the water may be passed through to the engine and may cause fuel injection equipment damage.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 71:
Maximum Fuel Filter Change Interval:
❑ Normal schedule: 22,500 miles (36,000 km) or as indicated by the message center (whichever comes first)
❑ Special operating conditions: 15,000 miles (24,000 km) or 600 engine hours; see appropriate schedule Scheduled Maintenance Guide
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 72:
Check Every Month
❑ Fuel filter/water separator; drain if necessary
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Personally I'm on the drain and check for water once a month plan and sometimes even more often than once per month since it is dead simple. I use a small glass mason jar which is about 20 oz maybe (clean and dry) and drain for 25 seconds like it says in the book.
If no water, I put the fuel back in the tank which as been the case every single time so far.
I've decided on 15,000 miles change schedule and just did it the other weekend for first time.
Also, you sort of have to laugh at some of this. Like "drain if necessary". How are you supposed to know if you should drain if necessary without draining it? Maybe that means wait for the light, but on page 4 it says check on regular interval. And round and round you go.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 4:
The DFCM should be drained at regular intervals or when indicated by the message center message and water in fuel indicator light.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 38:
Water should be drained from the module assembly whenever the warning light comes on and the message center directs you to drain the water separator. This will occur when approximately 0.32 pints (150 ml) of water accumulates in the module. If water level is allowed to exceed this level, the water may be passed through to the engine and may cause fuel injection equipment damage.
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 71:
Maximum Fuel Filter Change Interval:
❑ Normal schedule: 22,500 miles (36,000 km) or as indicated by the message center (whichever comes first)
❑ Special operating conditions: 15,000 miles (24,000 km) or 600 engine hours; see appropriate schedule Scheduled Maintenance Guide
This is from the Diesel Supplement, 5th Printing, Page 72:
Check Every Month
❑ Fuel filter/water separator; drain if necessary
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Personally I'm on the drain and check for water once a month plan and sometimes even more often than once per month since it is dead simple. I use a small glass mason jar which is about 20 oz maybe (clean and dry) and drain for 25 seconds like it says in the book.
If no water, I put the fuel back in the tank which as been the case every single time so far.
I've decided on 15,000 miles change schedule and just did it the other weekend for first time.
Also, you sort of have to laugh at some of this. Like "drain if necessary". How are you supposed to know if you should drain if necessary without draining it? Maybe that means wait for the light, but on page 4 it says check on regular interval. And round and round you go.